If Favre had stayed...

[Bretsky]

I've noticed that a lot of the thread title kind of beg you to complete the sentence. When I saw this one what came to my mind was "we'd have more wins".

Before any bashing begins, I'll say AROD has played better than I expected and I see him being a good QB for a long time.

But it'd be a fun game to play with some of the thread titles

[Fritz]

I have been entertaining the possibility that Favre brings an automatic swagger to a team that is pretty much unrelated to his actual performance or talent level at this point in his career.

This would explain in part both the Jets' improvement and the Packers' deprovement (my new word). Maybe losing Favre caused this team to lose its sense of invinicibility - that they couldn't lose cuz they had Favre. At least not til the weather got cold...

[packinpatland]

I've noticed that a lot of the thread title kind of beg you to complete the sentence. When I saw this one what came to my mind was "we'd have more wins".

Before any bashing begins, I'll say AROD has played better than I expected and I see him being a good QB for a long time.

But it'd be a fun game to play with some of the thread titles

"...........................he wouldn't have to play those Patriots twice a season!"

[ZachMN]

ummmm how good was Jax last year and now where are they? The NFL is so psychotic now there is no carryover from year to year it seems. All TT's fault though

[Bretsky]

ummmm how good was Jax last year and now where are they? The NFL is so psychotic now there is no carryover from year to year it seems. All TT's fault though

Did TT let Marcus Stroud go to free agency ?

[dissident94]

Its BOTH SIDES FAULT. Yes the defense stinks. But the offense couldn't do anything in the first half.

Here is our drives. Now someone tell me the offense isn't a major problem


1rst Q

18yrds-Punt

0 yrds-punt

27 yrds-punt

2nd Q

49 yrds-punt

23 yrds-TD (set up by int)

36 yrds-int

3rd Q

0 yrds punt

26 yrd-punt

79 yrds- TD

4th

89 yrds- td

46 yrd- punt



We had one good drive the whole game. 1 td off of a int. 1 td off of a big play. Other than that we had 1 drive.

When we had good pass protection and receivers running free. Our recievers were wide open all first half and we couldn't do anything.

You do not help a defense by constantly punting back to the other team

[bobblehead]

I have been entertaining the possibility that Favre brings an automatic swagger to a team that is pretty much unrelated to his actual performance or talent level at this point in his career.

This would explain in part both the Jets' improvement and the Packers' deprovement (my new word). Maybe losing Favre caused this team to lose its sense of invinicibility - that they couldn't lose cuz they had Favre. At least not til the weather got cold...

coles is obviously in awe of favre and playing his heart out for the guy...so is the DLine the Jets paid for in the offseason, and the all-pro guard.

The jets are playing the weakest schedule in football this year. They bought a lot of talent in the offseason. BF is still a good (not great) QB, but if anyone thinks that millionaire pro athletes are as in awe of him as some on this board they are nuts.

The packers "deprovement" is due to several factors. A first year starter at QB that is playing about as well as anyone could expect, but isn't a veteran. Injuries at every part of the roster. (name me a position group that hasn't been hurt.) and a damn tough schedule.

edit: just realized that QB is the only position group not to miss time to injury...Huh!

[retailguy]

This year is not unlike '05 in terms of injuries and general defensive ineptitude. What did Favre look like that year? A shit load of picks, 4-12, and lots of talking heads saying the Packers were stupid not to give Rodgers a shot to see if he could play.

QB is the least of this team's problems. Rodgers should only get better, and he's already pretty good.

I firmly believe that Aaron Rodgers has little or nothing to do with how this team is playing right now.

I disagree with the comparisons to 2005 though. That team, other than the Baltimore game, never gave up. This team, is so all over the map, it inspires little confidence. By the middle of the second quarter this past week, I didn't think they could win. Even as they marched down the field to tie at 21 points, my brain was saying this isn't going to work.

I didn't think or believe that in 2005.... I think there is a marked difference in this team and the 2005 team. I put the blame on coaching. All levels. These guys just aren't ready to play, consistently.

[Bretsky]

I have been entertaining the possibility that Favre brings an automatic swagger to a team that is pretty much unrelated to his actual performance or talent level at this point in his career.

This would explain in part both the Jets' improvement and the Packers' deprovement (my new word). Maybe losing Favre caused this team to lose its sense of invinicibility - that they couldn't lose cuz they had Favre. At least not til the weather got cold...

coles is obviously in awe of favre and playing his heart out for the guy...so is the DLine the Jets paid for in the offseason, and the all-pro guard.

The jets are playing the weakest schedule in football this year. They bought a lot of talent in the offseason. BF is still a good (not great) QB, but if anyone thinks that millionaire pro athletes are as in awe of him as some on this board they are nuts.

The packers "deprovement" is due to several factors. A first year starter at QB that is playing about as well as anyone could expect, but isn't a veteran. Injuries at every part of the roster. (name me a position group that hasn't been hurt.) and a damn tough schedule.

Kicker

The stength of this year's schedule is really overrated.

[bobblehead]

I have been entertaining the possibility that Favre brings an automatic swagger to a team that is pretty much unrelated to his actual performance or talent level at this point in his career.

This would explain in part both the Jets' improvement and the Packers' deprovement (my new word). Maybe losing Favre caused this team to lose its sense of invinicibility - that they couldn't lose cuz they had Favre. At least not til the weather got cold...

coles is obviously in awe of favre and playing his heart out for the guy...so is the DLine the Jets paid for in the offseason, and the all-pro guard.

The jets are playing the weakest schedule in football this year. They bought a lot of talent in the offseason. BF is still a good (not great) QB, but if anyone thinks that millionaire pro athletes are as in awe of him as some on this board they are nuts.

The packers "deprovement" is due to several factors. A first year starter at QB that is playing about as well as anyone could expect, but isn't a veteran. Injuries at every part of the roster. (name me a position group that hasn't been hurt.) and a damn tough schedule.

Kicker

The stength of this year's schedule is really overrated.

and as I edited above QB...and what about the incredibly weak schedule we played last year?? overrated also?

[Bretsky]

I have been entertaining the possibility that Favre brings an automatic swagger to a team that is pretty much unrelated to his actual performance or talent level at this point in his career.

This would explain in part both the Jets' improvement and the Packers' deprovement (my new word). Maybe losing Favre caused this team to lose its sense of invinicibility - that they couldn't lose cuz they had Favre. At least not til the weather got cold...

coles is obviously in awe of favre and playing his heart out for the guy...so is the DLine the Jets paid for in the offseason, and the all-pro guard.

The jets are playing the weakest schedule in football this year. They bought a lot of talent in the offseason. BF is still a good (not great) QB, but if anyone thinks that millionaire pro athletes are as in awe of him as some on this board they are nuts.

The packers "deprovement" is due to several factors. A first year starter at QB that is playing about as well as anyone could expect, but isn't a veteran. Injuries at every part of the roster. (name me a position group that hasn't been hurt.) and a damn tough schedule.

Kicker

The stength of this year's schedule is really overrated.

and as I edited above QB...and what about the incredibly weak schedule we played last year?? overrated also?

I've always said last year's schedule was weak as well