Coles Bashes Favre...

[Patler]

Extremely dumb thing for Coles to say. Extremely dumb.

But, Favre's arm is NOT what it used to be. You could see it last year, you can see it more this year.
Remember James Jones comment this past training camp, when he said Rodgers throws harder than Favre? Jones could be a good gauge of how much Favre's arm has declined. He did not see Favre in his prime. His comparison was a contemporary comparison of Favre NOW and Rodgers now.

There is a reason Favre's yards/completion is lower than it has ever been, and about a yard below his career average (last time I checked). He throws few passes longer than 10 yards.

[Patler]

Brett has always sucked at the deep ball. His big arm rep was earned from the 30 yard laser beams he throws...he has never had much touch on the deep lofted bomb type pass.

Agreed, except I would say " the 30 yard laser beams he threw". You don't see many of those anymore.

[red]

i just saw the replay of the favre INT. coles gave up on the play. he didn't even try to get the ball that was picked

[Freak Out]

Cole's is a chump. A TO type with much less talent. He must not understand it's a team sport.

[arcilite]

Interesting comments from a teammate (someone who's supposed to have your back). I know he has a bad attitude about Favre, but what if there's some truth to it? The arm strength part, I could care less if Coles or Cotchery gets more touches.

I ventured to some JEts forums (I know they are not the sanest of fans) to try to see if trhere is merit behind what coles said.

I think there is.

They complain a lot about underthrown deep balls and the like.

I just came back from a visit to the Jets Forums. Didn't see a thing, if I had I would have brought it back here to our Forum.

Took only 3 minutes

http://forums.theganggreen.com/showthread.php?t=39196

[Noodle]

Extremely dumb thing for Coles to say. Extremely dumb.

But, Favre's arm is NOT what it used to be. You could see it last year, you can see it more this year.
Remember James Jones comment this past training camp, when he said Rodgers throws harder than Favre? Jones could be a good gauge of how much Favre's arm has declined. He did not see Favre in his prime. His comparison was a contemporary comparison of Favre NOW and Rodgers now.

There is a reason Favre's yards/completion is lower than it has ever been, and about a yard below his career average (last time I checked). He throws few passes longer than 10 yards.

That's what was so brilliant about the focus of the offense last year. Get the ball out quick, in rhythm, then let the YAC pile up. Don't ask the QB to do crap that's not in his wheel house.

Arm strenghth is like 40 times, way over-rated. Give me pre-snap decision-making, accuracy and timing any day of the week.

[Kiwon]

There are plenty of teams that would take Farve and his weak arm over what they have.

[RashanGary]

There are plenty of teams that would take Favre and his weak arm over what they have.

I wish they would have showed up when we tried to trade him.

[Kiwon]

There are plenty of teams that would take Favre and his weak arm over what they have.

I wish they would have showed up when we tried to trade him.

Well, the dude is 39 and makes $12 mill a year. It's not like signing a street FA.

[channtheman]

Interesting comments from a teammate (someone who's supposed to have your back). I know he has a bad attitude about Favre, but what if there's some truth to it? The arm strength part, I could care less if Coles or Cotchery gets more touches.

I ventured to some JEts forums (I know they are not the sanest of fans) to try to see if trhere is merit behind what coles said.

I think there is.

They complain a lot about underthrown deep balls and the like.

I just came back from a visit to the Jets Forums. Didn't see a thing, if I had I would have brought it back here to our Forum.

Took only 3 minutes

http://forums.theganggreen.com/showthread.php?t=39196

Packers4ever, don't talk out of your ass, no one likes it when people do that. As for the Jets fans, DAMN. I thought they liked Favre a whole lot more. They label anyone who says anything good about Favre a Packer fan but that's probably because they are. Do we have any packerrats signed up at that board? Come on now, be honest. What's your usernames over there?

[th87]

Looks like this is a media concoction:

http://www.profootballtalk.com/2008/12/07/coles-on-favre-the-jugs-machine-throws-harder/

UPDATE: Rich Cimini of the Daily News and Erik Boland of Newsday have both reacted to Crumpacker’s story by writing that Favre and Coles were joking around before the call and, according to Cimini, Favre told Coles to tell the S.F. writers that they had problems with each other. Each also posted the full transcript of the conference call which makes Coles sound a helluva lot less self-involved as the quotes Crumpacker used and I passed along. For example:

Chronicle: “This is his offense. When we do throw the ball, there’s really no level of importance, where at one point it used to be where I was the guy … in position to get the ball most of the time.”

Complete transcript: “Basically, you just follow the plays around [Brett Favre]. This is his offense. Our running game has taken off and then when we do throw the ball, there’s really no level of importance, where at one point in time it used to be where I was the guy that was put in the position to get the ball most of the time. Now I just play my role and if the team decides to take me away, we’ve got other guys that make plays. Basically, I just do what I’m supposed to do and that’s my role.”

[Harlan Huckleby]

Re: Coles Bashes Favre...

This is very fishy.

John Crumpacker of the San Francisco Chronicle (via Fanhouse) shared some comments that Coles made before today’s 24-14 loss to the 49ers.

what is "via Fanhouse"? Does Crumpacker stand behind this story as a journalist?

Coles thinks that Favre’s reputation as a good quarterback with a strong arm isn’t justified.

How inflamatory. Did Coles say this? If he said it, where is the quote?
No, this is just the spin put on the story by the writer, who is repeating the spin put on a conversation by another writer.

“I catch balls from the Jugs machine. The ball probably comes out harder from there than it does from anywhere else … Of course he’s the big name, he’s the Hall of Famer, he’s going to get the majority of the credit but most of the guys who deserve the credit don’t really get it.”

What did Coles say in the "..." part? Probably something that mitigates the other comment, so it was cut out.

And even the edited statement is not saying more than the obvious, Favre gets the star treatment from the press.

For all I know, maybe Coles is a big dick. But its highly unlikely that he would agree with the spin that this story is pushing. A reciever does not trash his starting QB, he knows where his bread is buttered. The Jets team is having more success with Favre this year than they've seen in several years.

[Harlan Huckleby]

UPDATE: Rich Cimini of the Daily News and Erik Boland of Newsday have both reacted to Crumpacker’s story by writing that Favre and Coles were joking around before the call and, according to Cimini, Favre told Coles to tell the S.F. writers that they had problems with each other.

OK, this sounds much more believable than the original story.

[cpk1994]

Re: Coles Bashes Favre...

"Of course he’s the big name, he’s the Hall of Famer, he’s going to get the majority of the credit but most of the guys who deserve the credit don’t really get it.”

Laverneus, you are learning what Packer fans knew for 16 years. Get used to it buddy. The Media will suck Favre's knob for all its worth.

typical bs from you....

Can't be bs when it is the truth. YOu are ignorant if yua can't see that the media kisses Favre's ass every which way. And you obviously don't pay attention to Terry Bradshaw. But I expect that kind of a bs response from you.

[lod01]

Truly pathetic journalism.