The Facts

[KYPack]

Re: The Facts

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- Scoring 21 points against a journeymen defense like Houston's is unacceptable, and should be looked at as a colossal disappointment given the strong field position and the 4 turnovers forced by our defense

Who told you that?

Houston has a good young defense that is starting to come together. if Eugene Wilson, a smart vet S was on the field they would unquestionably be the better group. The way it is, we are 27th against the run, the Texans are 24th. Houston has some baby superstars on that D. I'd trade Nick Barnett for Demeco Ryans in a heartbeat. Mario Williams will be All-World if he keeps developing and they have a nice sprinkling of young guys that are improving week to week.

Dunta Robinson is a good young corner and Okoye is getting better all the time at DT. Houston will be one of the better teams in the future, they are well built on defense.

[cpk1994]

I don't think Partial is saying that the defense is playing well, but that they are taking the brunt of the criticism for the team being 5-8 even though the offense is failing in many regards as well.

That's exactly what I am saying. The offense is nowhere near what it was last year, nor is the D.

Maybe if you made like 650 more threads about it......

+1. Why do you keep starting threads making the same point over and over? Compare the offensive stats to the rest of the league. They're top 10 in yards and top 5 in pts scored. As I said in the other thread, Arod has a better completion % than both Mannings and a better QB rating than Favre and Peyton.

For futher comparison last year we scored 27.2 pts per game and ranked 4th. This season so far we've scored 27.3 pts per game and are also ranked 4th. So is this year's offense better than last year's? Right now it looks like a dead heat. I have to head to class so I don't have time to pull the defensive numbers from last year and this. If someone else wants to feel free otherwise I'll do it when I get home.

QFT. Enough already Partial, your shit is old. Very old.

[pack4to84]

Partial = troll
Better yet I think he is a bears fan impersonating a Packer fan to start stuff.

[imscott72]

Continuing on, I want to post the defensive stats comparing to last year. In 2007 we ranked 6th giving up 18.2 pts/game and 11th giving up 313 yards/game.

Fast forward to 2008 and we're currently ranked 23rd giving up 346 yards/game and 22nd giving up 24.5 pts/game.

So, what does all this mean? The offense is actually a tick better than last year (.1 pt) and ranked 4th, however the defense had dropped considerably in ranks from last year. (6th to 22nd and 11th to 23rd). Now go on and tell me the offense is continuing to let the defense down.

[bobblehead]

Fact:

BF QB rating: 288 421 68.4 2845 6.76 56 20 4.8 15 3.6 26.0 176 88.2

AR QB rating: 276 434 63.6 3192 7.36 63 22 5.1 11 2.5 27.0 172 92.1

[Gunakor]

Partial = troll
Better yet I think he is a bears fan impersonating a Packer fan to start stuff.

Nah, I think his heart is with the Packers. He's no troll, and certainly no Bears fan. I think he honestly believes what he is saying, and is wishing for a Colts type team with a high powered offense that will win games 38-35 and bail their sorry excuse for a defense out week after week. I'd rather have a Ravens/Bucs type team with a defense that will hold your high powered offense to 2 TD's and a FG for the game, while our adequate but not high powered offense wins the game 21-17. I think a pretty good number of Packer fans would agree with me. And though we will never see eye to eye with Partial on that, it doesn't make him a troll or a Bears fan.