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  • #31
    Originally posted by Partial
    Not sure. He hit him from the side where the knee is weak. Most RB collisions are head on and they know its coming. It looks very deliberate to me.
    It was a deliberate attempt to take him out at the legs. I thought his head was in front of the knee, not the side, so it is tough to say with any confidence that he deliberately tried to take out a knee.

    THe blocker was on all fours and basically did the only thing he could to get in front of Allen. I think the reason it looks bad was that Allen had no idea that the blocker was there and had no oppurtunity to jump or otherwise avoid the block. It was a blindside hit for Allen, but only becasue the circumstances of the play had Allen running sidewise across the field.

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    • #32
      I was watching the game since I have NFL ticket and I believe Green Bay was in commercial. But anyway totally legal block. The lineman did his job in slowing down the defender in pursuit of the QB. Didn't see anythign wrong with it.

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      • #33
        Originally posted by dissident94
        I was watching the game since I have NFL ticket and I believe Green Bay was in commercial. But anyway totally legal block. The lineman did his job in slowing down the defender in pursuit of the QB. Didn't see anythign wrong with it.

        This was discussed ad naseum on NFL radio....wife was in the store and I was listening. Nobody liked the block, mainly because the play was 20 yards away.

        It was legal though, just completely un-necessary. Like Sapp/Clifton, playw as gone and that wasn't going to do a damn thing.

        The only guy who didn't have anything negative to say was when they interviewed Viking center Matt Birk who said the guy saw someone running hard and only had a split second to decide what to do and elected to try and slow him down.

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        • #34
          Originally posted by Rastak
          Originally posted by bobblehead
          I had zero problem with the block. Allen was in backside pursuit of the QB, the guy who blocked him had been knocked down, but was IN FRONT of allen. What was he supposed to do, watch allen pursue and make a play?? Hell no, he gets paid to play til the whistle so he chop blocked him...allen wasn't engaged with anyone at the time and if he had LOOKED he would have seen the blocker and taken steps to avoid it.

          Now if he guy was intentionally trying to hurt him it would be cheap, but I just didn't see it that way. Last year Harris dove over a guy and hit Peterson in the knee...was that cheap, no, Harris gets paid to make a tackle anyway he can. This guy gets paid to protect his QB and while I'm sure he would have rather hit Allen in the face he wasn't in position to do that so he blocked him the only way he could.


          You'd be surprised at how many people whine about legal blocks. I thought it was behind the play and not necessary but legal. Warren Sapp/Chad Clifton being the prime example. The block on Allen was totally legal, so was Sapp's but the crying reached a level I never would have believed.
          Clifton never cried about it and he was taken out hard....Allen seems to be screaming and crying like a little girl.
          C.H.U.D.

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          • #35
            Originally posted by Freak Out
            Originally posted by Rastak
            Originally posted by bobblehead
            I had zero problem with the block. Allen was in backside pursuit of the QB, the guy who blocked him had been knocked down, but was IN FRONT of allen. What was he supposed to do, watch allen pursue and make a play?? Hell no, he gets paid to play til the whistle so he chop blocked him...allen wasn't engaged with anyone at the time and if he had LOOKED he would have seen the blocker and taken steps to avoid it.

            Now if he guy was intentionally trying to hurt him it would be cheap, but I just didn't see it that way. Last year Harris dove over a guy and hit Peterson in the knee...was that cheap, no, Harris gets paid to make a tackle anyway he can. This guy gets paid to protect his QB and while I'm sure he would have rather hit Allen in the face he wasn't in position to do that so he blocked him the only way he could.


            You'd be surprised at how many people whine about legal blocks. I thought it was behind the play and not necessary but legal. Warren Sapp/Chad Clifton being the prime example. The block on Allen was totally legal, so was Sapp's but the crying reached a level I never would have believed.
            Clifton never cried about it and he was taken out hard....Allen seems to be screaming and crying like a little girl.
            I think he was either crying all the way to the bank or to celebrate yet another 2 sack game.

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            • #36
              Originally posted by Rastak
              Originally posted by Freak Out
              Originally posted by Rastak
              Originally posted by bobblehead
              I had zero problem with the block. Allen was in backside pursuit of the QB, the guy who blocked him had been knocked down, but was IN FRONT of allen. What was he supposed to do, watch allen pursue and make a play?? Hell no, he gets paid to play til the whistle so he chop blocked him...allen wasn't engaged with anyone at the time and if he had LOOKED he would have seen the blocker and taken steps to avoid it.

              Now if he guy was intentionally trying to hurt him it would be cheap, but I just didn't see it that way. Last year Harris dove over a guy and hit Peterson in the knee...was that cheap, no, Harris gets paid to make a tackle anyway he can. This guy gets paid to protect his QB and while I'm sure he would have rather hit Allen in the face he wasn't in position to do that so he blocked him the only way he could.


              You'd be surprised at how many people whine about legal blocks. I thought it was behind the play and not necessary but legal. Warren Sapp/Chad Clifton being the prime example. The block on Allen was totally legal, so was Sapp's but the crying reached a level I never would have believed.
              Clifton never cried about it and he was taken out hard....Allen seems to be screaming and crying like a little girl.
              I think he was either crying all the way to the bank or to celebrate yet another 2 sack game.

              A win is a win even against the lions and I'm sure his game check is pretty significant. What is he paid anyway?
              C.H.U.D.

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              • #37
                Originally posted by Freak Out
                Originally posted by Rastak
                Originally posted by Freak Out
                Originally posted by Rastak
                Originally posted by bobblehead
                I had zero problem with the block. Allen was in backside pursuit of the QB, the guy who blocked him had been knocked down, but was IN FRONT of allen. What was he supposed to do, watch allen pursue and make a play?? Hell no, he gets paid to play til the whistle so he chop blocked him...allen wasn't engaged with anyone at the time and if he had LOOKED he would have seen the blocker and taken steps to avoid it.

                Now if he guy was intentionally trying to hurt him it would be cheap, but I just didn't see it that way. Last year Harris dove over a guy and hit Peterson in the knee...was that cheap, no, Harris gets paid to make a tackle anyway he can. This guy gets paid to protect his QB and while I'm sure he would have rather hit Allen in the face he wasn't in position to do that so he blocked him the only way he could.


                You'd be surprised at how many people whine about legal blocks. I thought it was behind the play and not necessary but legal. Warren Sapp/Chad Clifton being the prime example. The block on Allen was totally legal, so was Sapp's but the crying reached a level I never would have believed.
                Clifton never cried about it and he was taken out hard....Allen seems to be screaming and crying like a little girl.
                I think he was either crying all the way to the bank or to celebrate yet another 2 sack game.

                A win is a win even against the lions and I'm sure his game check is pretty significant. What is he paid anyway?
                Not sure but it's lots and lots. I believe he's the top paid defensive player for now. He's worth every penny from what I've seen. He motivates the entire defense. Birk called him a human can of red bull. He also seems to get stronger in the 4th quarter. I am guessing that's actually other guys getting tired faster.

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