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  • #16
    We don't have the personnel for a 3-4, though I'd be willing to take the bruises for a year or two as we transition towards it.

    Kampman could bulk up like he was in the past when he played inside and be a 3-4 end. He's be less of a pass rusher and probably wouldn't like it too much, though.

    Hawk is not athletic enough to play outside in a 3-4 I don't think. Jason Hunter would probably be an edge rusher in that position.

    Barnett could play outside because he is too small to play inside. Bishop would probably be the other inside starter with Hawk.

    Bigby is the PERFECT 3-4 in the box versatile safety. Good enough in coverage to not be a liability, but a menace in the box.

    Collins has the range to play center field.

    Jenkins could be a very, very, very good 3-4 end with his size/strength/quickness combo. Harrell, Cole, and another DT could be the ends to start out with.

    I'm all for keeping the safeties in cover 2, but I don't want to see the corners playing soft zones like they do in Detroit and Tampa. No way. Marinelli is probably gonna be the DC in Tampa anyway.

    If Rob Ryan gets fired, bring him in!!!!!!!

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    • #17
      I would love to snarf up one of the guys from Tampa's squad or Pittsburgh squad and bring him in as a Dcoordinator.. those two teams have done it, and done it well for a long time now

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      • #18
        Mike Nolan

        He ran the 3-4 in Baltimore
        He hired MM in San Fran

        This would be a great hire

        A year or two of growing pains

        Some replacing of players

        But bring some toughness and aggression to Green Bay
        TERD Buckley over Troy Vincent, Robert Ferguson over Chris Chambers, Kevn King instead of TJ Watt, and now, RICH GANNON, over JIMMY JIMMY JIMMY LEONARD. Thank you FLOWER

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        • #19
          Ya all gonna hate me for this, but since continuity is very important and MM believes we are a contender he isn't going to change schemes. He might fire Sanders and hire Moss, but the scheme is going to stay....is Bates available?

          Oh yea, almost forgot, what about Tim Lewis. Is he available?? Ex packer, had great success in pittsburg. No clue if he is still in pitt or what, and I'm too tired to google it.
          The only time success comes before work is in the dictionary -- Vince Lombardi

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          • #20
            Originally posted by Bretsky
            If we hire from within this staff I'll be SICK

            I'm fine with a number of guys on the list
            Exactly. Don't fire the guy if you’re going to replace him with someone less experienced and potentially less competent. Bob Sanders is not a good D. coordinator, but I'd rather have him back for another year and not have to learn a new scheme if his replacement is not exceptionally better. If someone better is out there fine, otherwise don't be brash and fire the guy as soon as the season ends. Don't forget our d-line is horrible and its hard to do much when you have no pass rushers.
            Draft Brandin Cooks WR OSU!

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            • #21
              Obviously, I voted for Bob Sanders. Me and Thompson and McCarthy makes a majority, no matter how many dumbasses vote for somebody else.

              Two other names that should be in the poll, though, are Jim Bates and Wade Phillips. I might actually vote for Bates over Sanders.

              As I have said repeatedly, changing the coordinator would almost certainly mean changing the scheme--which would be just plain stupid. Do you guys not realize that? Or do you realize it and are dumb enough to vote that way anyway?

              The 3-4 scheme actually would not be bad. It is a non-blitz scheme most of the time (unless you consider sending one LB as the fourth pass rusher to be blitzing. You could easily use man coverage, as has been so successful for the Packer in a 3-4. It is also reputed to be effective against the run. And contrary to what somebody said, we do now have suitable personnel to play it. With Barnett coming back and Hawk seeming to be more suitable on the inside, we have our two ILBs. Chillar has been a pleasant surprise on the outside; Popinga hasn't improved from last year like I thought he would, but he has been OK; And Bishop IMO looked very good on the outside last Sunday.

              Kampman might not be suited for DE in a 3-4, though. He got run on consistently last Sunday. Jenkins and Montgomery, however, would be very good 3-4 DEs. Playing Kampman at OLB part of the time, and moving him back to DE on passing downs might work.
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              • #22
                Name caller.
                Originally posted by 3irty1
                This is museum quality stupidity.

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                • #23
                  Originally posted by Bretsky
                  Mike Nolan

                  He ran the 3-4 in Baltimore
                  He hired MM in San Fran

                  This would be a great hire

                  A year or two of growing pains

                  Some replacing of players

                  But bring some toughness and aggression to Green Bay
                  Wasn't that Starvin' Marvin Lewis who was the DCoord there? I thought it went Lewis as the coordinator, then the Ryan boys were both there somewhere, and Nolan was the LB coach.

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                  • #24
                    You fuckers are forgetting the most obvious hire. McCarthy's friend, so they'll work seamlessly. Tons of experience overcoming self-inflicted adversity. An internal hire to maintain continuity. Even has a football "pedigree:"



                    Kurt Schottenheimer
                    "You're all very smart, and I'm very dumb." - Partial

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                    • #25
                      Lombardi told Starr to "Run it, and let's get the hell out of here!" - 'Ice Bowl' December 31, 1967

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                      • #26
                        Originally posted by texaspackerbacker
                        Obviously, I voted for Bob Sanders. Me and Thompson and McCarthy makes a majority, no matter how many dumbasses vote for somebody else.

                        Two other names that should be in the poll, though, are Jim Bates and Wade Phillips. I might actually vote for Bates over Sanders.

                        As I have said repeatedly, changing the coordinator would almost certainly mean changing the scheme--which would be just plain stupid. Do you guys not realize that? Or do you realize it and are dumb enough to vote that way anyway?

                        The 3-4 scheme actually would not be bad. It is a non-blitz scheme most of the time (unless you consider sending one LB as the fourth pass rusher to be blitzing. You could easily use man coverage, as has been so successful for the Packer in a 3-4. It is also reputed to be effective against the run. And contrary to what somebody said, we do now have suitable personnel to play it. With Barnett coming back and Hawk seeming to be more suitable on the inside, we have our two ILBs. Chillar has been a pleasant surprise on the outside; Popinga hasn't improved from last year like I thought he would, but he has been OK; And Bishop IMO looked very good on the outside last Sunday.

                        Kampman might not be suited for DE in a 3-4, though. He got run on consistently last Sunday. Jenkins and Montgomery, however, would be very good 3-4 DEs. Playing Kampman at OLB part of the time, and moving him back to DE on passing downs might work.
                        Bates isn't going to come back. Lest you forget the way he left.

                        That said, Id be happy with anyone other than Bob Sanders. He is comepletely incompetent and doesn't know wht the word "adjustment" means or the word "aggressive".

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                        • #27
                          Originally posted by Partial
                          Originally posted by Bretsky
                          Mike Nolan

                          He ran the 3-4 in Baltimore
                          He hired MM in San Fran

                          This would be a great hire

                          A year or two of growing pains

                          Some replacing of players

                          But bring some toughness and aggression to Green Bay
                          Wasn't that Starvin' Marvin Lewis who was the DCoord there? I thought it went Lewis as the coordinator, then the Ryan boys were both there somewhere, and Nolan was the LB coach.


                          Coaching career
                          He coached at the collegiate level at Stanford University, Rice University, and LSU before moving on to the National Football League.

                          The son of former San Francisco 49ers and New Orleans Saints head coach, Dick Nolan, he signed with the 49ers in 2005 to be head coach, following in his father's footsteps. Nolan joined San Francisco after establishing himself as the defensive coordinator of the Baltimore Ravens, a position he held with three other teams: New York Jets (2000), Washington Redskins (1997-99), and New York Giants (1993-96). Nolan finished the 2005 season with a 4-12 record. Nolan led a late season run and the 49ers improved in 2006 to 7-9. That led to expectations for the 2007 season, which included 9 wins and a playoff appearance. The season started well at 2-0, but an 8 game losing streak ended all hope of a playoff run. Nolan has been under intense scrutiny in the Bay Area. After the season, Nolan lost his general manager position and now as of October 20, 2008 Nolan was fired and replaced by his assistant head coach Mike Singletary.

                          Suit Issue
                          Following his hiring by the 49ers, Nolan asked the NFL for permission to wear a suit and tie on the sidelines as a tribute to his father. The league initially denied Nolan's request because of the contract it has with Reebok for its coaches to wear team-logo attire, a ruling that was changed during Nolan's second season as coach. In the new NFL policy, coaches were allowed to wear a full suit for only two home games per season. The suits were designed, marketed and labeled under the Reebok corporation. Nolan debuted the suit in a game at home against the Seattle Seahawks on November 19, 2006. A day later, Jacksonville Jaguars head coach Jack Del Rio sported another Reebok suit on Monday Night Football. Both coaches won their weekend games.

                          After further lobbying on the part of Nolan, the NFL and Reebok reached an agreement to allow suits to be worn at all home games in the 2007 season.[1]


                          Coaching Tree
                          Mike Nolan has been linked to more than one coaching tree. He was a defensive coordinator for Brian Billick (who is part of the Bill Walsh coaching tree), Al Groh (who is part of the Bill Parcells coaching tree), and also Norv Turner (part of the Jimmy Johnson tree). However, Nolan truly "cut his teeth" under the tutelage of Dan Reeves. Reeves brought Nolan with him from Denver (where he was Linebackers Coach) to New York to be the Giants Defensive Coordinator in 1993. Nolan excelled at the position and his success served as a springboard for later success with other teams. Nolan's strongest roots are in the Dan Reeves Coaching tree.
                          TERD Buckley over Troy Vincent, Robert Ferguson over Chris Chambers, Kevn King instead of TJ Watt, and now, RICH GANNON, over JIMMY JIMMY JIMMY LEONARD. Thank you FLOWER

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                          • #28
                            This is from an article in the Press Gazette.

                            If McCarthy opts for the change in January, there are at least three obvious candidates he’d surely consider as replacements: Winston Moss, the linebackers coach whom McCarthy promoted to an assistant head coach in 2007 so no team could hire him as a coordinator; Mike Nolan, the recently fired San Francisco 49ers head coach who hired McCarthy as his offensive coordinator in 2005; and Jim Haslett, the St. Louis Rams’ interim head coach who is likely to be available this offseason, and for whom McCarthy was offensive coordinator with the New Orleans Saints from 2000-04.
                            TERD Buckley over Troy Vincent, Robert Ferguson over Chris Chambers, Kevn King instead of TJ Watt, and now, RICH GANNON, over JIMMY JIMMY JIMMY LEONARD. Thank you FLOWER

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                            • #29
                              Originally posted by SkinBasket
                              You fuckers are forgetting the most obvious hire. McCarthy's friend, so they'll work seamlessly. Tons of experience overcoming self-inflicted adversity. An internal hire to maintain continuity. Even has a football "pedigree:"



                              Kurt Schottenheimer
                              Speaking of Shotty. I would be ecstatic for some Marty Ball.

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                              • #30
                                Originally posted by bobblehead
                                Ya all gonna hate me for this, but since continuity is very important and MM believes we are a contender he isn't going to change schemes. He might fire Sanders and hire Moss, but the scheme is going to stay....
                                That's the most likely answer.

                                Marvin Lewis is the most intriguing to me. He's a talented coach in a hopeless situation, created largely by his team's insistence on acquiring drunks and headcases. But lots of those names sound promising.
                                #14

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