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  • #46
    Originally posted by Patler
    I thought his hyperbaric bedroom was supposed to take care of that!!??
    Maybe someone is pumping helium into his oxygen tank. I blame the Bears. I don't think the Vikes could figure out the chemistry.
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    • #47
      Originally posted by DonHutson
      Originally posted by Patler
      I thought his hyperbaric bedroom was supposed to take care of that!!??
      Maybe someone is pumping helium into his oxygen tank. I blame the Bears. I don't think the Vikes could figure out the chemistry.

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      • #48
        Originally posted by Bretsky
        Originally posted by red
        i think everyone on the d side has taken a big step back this year. with the exceptions of woodson, and collins
        And Al Harris
        falco is gonna be so pissed at you guys.
        The only time success comes before work is in the dictionary -- Vince Lombardi

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        • #49
          I blame Hawk's poor year mostly on the injuries. I think he has been much more banged up then we have been led to believe.

          If memory serves me right, he looked pretty good in preseason and training camp. Didn't he suffer the chest injury in the 3rd preseason game? And then when did he get the groin injury? He just looks so much slower this year, like he has no explosion at all. No way would that all be from lifting.
          Go PACK

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          • #50
            Originally posted by Bossman641
            I blame Hawk's poor year mostly on the injuries. I think he has been much more banged up then we have been led to believe.

            If memory serves me right, he looked pretty good in preseason and training camp. Didn't he suffer the chest injury in the 3rd preseason game? And then when did he get the groin injury? He just looks so much slower this year, like he has no explosion at all. No way would that all be from lifting.
            Nice post.


            Bottom line is Hawk can play. This was obvious at least to me after watching his first two years. He's been hurt this year and the d-line sucks, what do you really expect from him? If TT will spend some money and be aggressive in free agency to upgrade the d-line you will see a big improvement from Hawk next year (assuming he’s health for the opener).
            Draft Brandin Cooks WR OSU!

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            • #51
              Always felt Hawk was slightly overrated.

              Injuries are most likely hampering performance. Always felt Hawk looked slightly stiff and not fluid in the hips.

              Hawk received too much pub imo -- probably because he is white. Once Hawk's contract expires let him become a free agent.

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              • #52
                Originally posted by rbaloha
                Once Hawk's contract expires let him become a free agent.
                I think that might be a little bit of a rushed judgement. His first 2 years he looked solid, not spectacular, but somebody you could count on and who you would expect to continue to grow. This year he has looked much worse. But honestly, who among the front 7 has played well at all? I'd say not a single player there has met expectations. Maybe Chillar. Kampman has the sack numbers, but I'd even say this year is a slip from last year (doesn't help that he's the only one who is providing a rush).
                Go PACK

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                • #53
                  Originally posted by Patler
                  Originally posted by DonHutson
                  I suspect he'll pick up where he left off last year, and he'll end up as a good player for a long time. Maybe more John Anderson than Brian Urlacher, but there's worse things.
                  If he plays like John Anderson, I will be satisfied. Anderson was a darn good, reliable linebacker. Very good in pass coverage. Hawk isn't there yet.

                  I'm willing to chalk this year up to injuries, and for the overall year to overall bad play by most of the defense. But the line isn't bad on every play, but Hawk has been nonexistent. Could be the injuries.
                  I thought his hyperbaric bedroom was supposed to take care of that!!??
                  I thought his wife was supposed to take care of that! (Flick of my cigar ashes; eyebrows raised).
                  "The Devine era is actually worse than you remember if you go back and look at it."

                  KYPack

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                  • #54
                    Originally posted by Patler
                    Originally posted by Cheesehead Craig
                    The scheme of the defense has much to do with this, IMO. Our LBs are not asked to attack like the Iggles, Bucs, Steelers, Ravens etc. I think if Hawk were in a better defensive scheme he would be doing better. I just don't think he's being put into a position to succeed to start with.
                    I look at it just the opposite. The linebackers are expected to be the ones making the plays in this defense. The DTs are there to keep the linebackers clean. Hawk has had opportunities against the run and in coverage, he just hasn't made significant plays. The only thing they aren't asked to do a lot is blitz.
                    Have any of our LBs made consistent plays? There are moments where all of them look good, but none of them do it for any significant time. Is it that they are all not very good then? I just can't buy that. LBs are expected in every defense to make plays but why is it that ours cannot? If the problem is the same across the board, to me that's scheme.
                    All hail the Ruler of the Meadow!

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                    • #55
                      Originally posted by Bossman641
                      I blame Hawk's poor year mostly on the injuries. I think he has been much more banged up then we have been led to believe.

                      If memory serves me right, he looked pretty good in preseason and training camp. Didn't he suffer the chest injury in the 3rd preseason game? And then when did he get the groin injury? He just looks so much slower this year, like he has no explosion at all. No way would that all be from lifting.
                      Middle of the year, after the chest injury was supposedly clearing up.

                      I probably could look it up, Boss, but I'm allowing this season to become a blur.

                      Kind of like 2005, I getting a case of "not giving a shit-itis".

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                      • #56
                        Did you say something?
                        "Greatness is not an act... but a habit.Greatness is not an act... but a habit." -Greg Jennings

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                        • #57
                          Originally posted by KYPack
                          Originally posted by Bossman641
                          I blame Hawk's poor year mostly on the injuries. I think he has been much more banged up then we have been led to believe.

                          If memory serves me right, he looked pretty good in preseason and training camp. Didn't he suffer the chest injury in the 3rd preseason game? And then when did he get the groin injury? He just looks so much slower this year, like he has no explosion at all. No way would that all be from lifting.
                          Middle of the year, after the chest injury was supposedly clearing up.

                          I probably could look it up, Boss, but I'm allowing this season to become a blur.

                          Kind of like 2005, I getting a case of "not giving a shit-itis".
                          It's a survival mechanism. I do the same. It's because we care so much.
                          "The Devine era is actually worse than you remember if you go back and look at it."

                          KYPack

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                          • #58
                            JSO asking the same questions, and why Bishop could do what Hawk has not in terms of impact plays:

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                            • #59
                              It is funny, cause when 56 was the mlb, I was told by many in here that the D is designed for the mike backer to make most of the tackles. I was just wondering if that is still thge case when Hawk is in there or did they change it once Hak got to be the mlb?
                              Pass Jessica's Law and keep the predators behind bars for 25 years minimum. Vote out liberal, SP judges. Enforce all immigrant laws!

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                              • #60
                                Originally posted by Patler
                                JSO asking the same questions, and why Bishop could do what Hawk has not in terms of impact plays:

                                http://www.jsonline.com/sports/packers/35941344.html
                                Makes you wonder if the JSO guys read Packerrats for story ideas. Or maybe it's just obvious Hawk is not playing well...
                                "The Devine era is actually worse than you remember if you go back and look at it."

                                KYPack

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