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  • #16
    Re: Young Team Conundrum

    Originally posted by MadtownPacker

    I am also sick of this Packers people crap. If a players is great and might have some personal issues so what. The NFL is a game and like any game you have to take risk. TT's lack of taking risk might be what does him in.
    Aren't teams being punished now if one or more of it's players has repeated conduct issues? There's a reason GM's stay away from those guys. And even if the team doesn't suffer any consequences, it doesn't make sense to sign a guy and pay him big money if he is consistently getting suspended or causing turmoil in the locker room. I'll take the Donald Driver's and the Greg Jennings' instead, since those are championship caliber people on top of being championship caliber players.
    Chuck Norris doesn't cut his grass, he just stares at it and dares it to grow

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    • #17
      I'm completely done with any pride about having the "youngest roster" in the NFL; many of these young guys are very marginal NFL players with limited upside. I'd like to see a better mix of vets and young guys and we can start by bringing in a starting caliber DL
      TERD Buckley over Troy Vincent, Robert Ferguson over Chris Chambers, Kevn King instead of TJ Watt, and now, RICH GANNON, over JIMMY JIMMY JIMMY LEONARD. Thank you FLOWER

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      • #18
        Originally posted by Bretsky
        I'm completely done with any pride about having the "youngest roster" in the NFL; many of these young guys are very marginal NFL players with limited upside. I'd like to see a better mix of vets and young guys and we can start by bringing in a starting caliber DL
        Overall, sure. But at the skill positions on offense, they are mostly good young players with tremendous upside. On defense, well...

        TT hasn't brought in a lot of young guys on that side of the ball. At least not as supposed starters anyway. Hawk, Bigby and Harrell are the only ones I can think of off the top of my head.

        Hawk you can't really call a marginal player - he's solid but not spectacular when he doesn't have chest and groin injuries. And Harrell has nothing if he doesn't have upside, so if he doesn't have that I'm not sure why they are keeping him on the roster - I'd think they'd just have put him on IR instead of PUP to begin the year. Other than that, he began each year with Sherman holdovers like Barnett and Kampman and Collins and Harris and Jenkins and KGB.

        He had to get rid of some of Sherman's aging DL before he could bring in a bunch of new guys - and has done so by releasing KGB. Now less money is tied up on the line as KGB was making 6-7 million, money he can afford to spend on a new DE should one become available. It would have been tough to pay 10 million to a stud rush DE and pay another 6 to his backup, and it would have been more costly to cut KGB at the beginning of the season rather than halfway through it. I wouldn't be suprised if TT isn't very competitive for Peppers or Haynesworth, should they hit the market. Maybe TT realized this potentially happening and used that as part of the reason for releasing KGB when he did, I don't know. But I know he and McCarthy aren't happy with this year's defensive performance, and I think is going to do something fairly profound to address it.
        Chuck Norris doesn't cut his grass, he just stares at it and dares it to grow

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        • #19
          Originally posted by Bretsky
          I'm completely done with any pride about having the "youngest roster" in the NFL; many of these young guys are very marginal NFL players with limited upside. I'd like to see a better mix of vets and young guys and we can start by bringing in a starting caliber DL
          They won't be the youngest whether we sign FA's or not. The Packers had a dearth of talent after the Sherman drafts. Because of that we went young to fill in the spots Sherman should have had. Now that Ted has had a few years to get better players, there will be less turn over. You'll see this team grow together in both age and in quality. Mark it down. Ted told me.
          Formerly known as JustinHarrell.

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          • #20
            Re: Young Team Conundrum

            Originally posted by Gunakor
            Originally posted by MadtownPacker

            I am also sick of this Packers people crap. If a players is great and might have some personal issues so what. The NFL is a game and like any game you have to take risk. TT's lack of taking risk might be what does him in.
            Aren't teams being punished now if one or more of it's players has repeated conduct issues? There's a reason GM's stay away from those guys. And even if the team doesn't suffer any consequences, it doesn't make sense to sign a guy and pay him big money if he is consistently getting suspended or causing turmoil in the locker room. I'll take the Donald Driver's and the Greg Jennings' instead, since those are championship caliber people on top of being championship caliber players.
            Im not saying to turn the Pack into the bengals. Just saying every tree has one or two bad apples but if the tree is stronger it will survive. Contracts can always be set up to get teams out of a jam if the player acts a fool.

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            • #21
              Originally posted by JustinHarrell
              Mark it down. Ted told me.
              Did he whisper it in your ear?

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              • #22
                Re: Young Team Conundrum

                Originally posted by MadtownPacker
                Originally posted by HarveyWallbangers
                Originally posted by pbmax
                I liked this approach because very similar approaches helped the Eagles, Patriots and Colts to maintain very good teams over long periods of time.
                Good post, and you can add the Steelers to this list.
                All those teams mentioned are young in many areas but all have NFL vets for each position to help keep the youngsters in check. I like the idea of keeping the roster fresh but I think TT may want to add some sure-fire talent at DE & OL.

                I am also sick of this Packers people crap. If a players is great and might have some personal issues so what. The NFL is a game and like any game you have to take risk. TT's lack of taking risk might be what does him in.
                I thought AJ Hawk would have been more a firey guy. He was certainly a tough guy in college and was a leader in college, but that probably had to do with him being the best defender, and he actually blitzed occasionally. Plus, I think the name just lends itself to leadership. I'm dissapointed he isn't a Ray Lewis type guy.

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                • #23
                  Originally posted by Bretsky
                  I'm completely done with any pride about having the "youngest roster" in the NFL; many of these young guys are very marginal NFL players with limited upside. I'd like to see a better mix of vets and young guys and we can start by bringing in a starting caliber DL
                  Dammit, let's get some guys in here who can grow a beard, at least!
                  "The Devine era is actually worse than you remember if you go back and look at it."

                  KYPack

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