Draft position? Interesting outlook now...

[Sef0r]

Lets see, as of right now (actually lets count tomorrow too since Cleveland wont win) the Packers will finish 10th in draft pick position.

However, over the next 2 weeks I can see us only winning 1 more game which is Detroit. I think the Bears are itching for revenge.

That will take us to 6-10 Unless the Bills or Chargers loose the next 2 games to also go 6-10 (I see them both winning at least 1 more) we will be in the top 10 in the draft.

The Jags will likely finish 5-11 with the niners going 6-10 (I think they beat the rams).

Esentially, the Packers are practically in the top 10...EVEN if they win the next 2 games, unless both Bills and Chargers lose both their last games.

Picking in the top 10 is never a guarantee of a sure fire stud, but the possibility of the upcoming class having some great players in the top 15 is never a bad thing....

[packrulz]

Yes, I'm looking ahead to the draft too, the Pack doesn't really help themselves by winning, I think they should sit Clifton down too and figure out who they want to keep or cut. They should also play the backups more like Flynn, Brohm, Finley, BJack, James Jones, Sitton, Barbre, Malone, Thompson, & etc.

[Partial]

If I'm looking at a losing season season and need a stud, I'm going to go ahead and lose both of those games. Movin' on up is worth a LOT at the top of round 1.

[cpk1994]

If I'm looking at a losing season season and need a stud, I'm going to go ahead and lose both of those games. Movin' on up is worth a LOT at the top of round 1.

Congratulations on insulting every player in the locker room. I think Herm Edwards said it the best:

"You play to win the DAMN game!"

Your loser BS shows that it is a good thing your are not a head coach. Or a GM for that matter.

[RashanGary]

Thanks for the outlook. 9 or 10 looks like a good place to be if a lot of the juniors come out that they are projecting.

DE Everette Brown, DT Mount Cody and OT Eugene Monroe are all being talked about in that area of the draft. While the draft publications can be greatly off at the end of the first - the rest of the draft, they are usually pretty accurate in the top 10 or so. Assuming ESPN is close to reality, it looks like best player could meet one of our biggest needs.

I'm hoping for Everette Brown but I'd be damn happy with the other two as well. I'd take a stud anywhere (cept receiver or QB) but I'm really hoping it's one of the need areas this year.

[texaspackerbacker]

Teams just don't go out and lose on purpose in the NFL--not even in situations more obvious than this. With nothing on the line to win for, though, it may well happen anyway. I think we're actually 9/10/11 with Jacksonville and San Francisco right now.

A good Offensive Tackle would seem to be the most likely pick, although they may figure that they can get a good ZBS-type lower down.

I can't see taking a D Lineman, as we have a lot of good young players who probably just need developing.

I'd like to see the Packers get a good quick RB--Steve Slaton or Felix Jones type. That also, however, would probably come lower down than the top third of the first round.

Possibly a top quality cover corner might be the most likely. Injuries happen; Harris and Woodson aren't gonna last forever; The Woodson at safety thing seemed to work well; Tramon Williams has been hot and cold; Patrick Lee may or may not amount to anything. I don't see the Packers changing their D scheme, so corner is still the most important position--and you should be able to get somebody really good at #9, 10, or 11 in the first round.

[sheepshead]

If I'm looking at a losing season season and need a stud, I'm going to go ahead and lose both of those games. Movin' on up is worth a LOT at the top of round 1.

wont happen

[channtheman]

If I'm looking at a losing season season and need a stud, I'm going to go ahead and lose both of those games. Movin' on up is worth a LOT at the top of round 1.

Congratulations on insulting every player in the locker room. I think Herm Edwards said it the best:

"You play to win the DAMN game!"

Your loser BS shows that it is a good thing your are not a head coach. Or a GM for that matter.

If MM gets these guys to rally when it would be best for us to lose to get a higher pick, then how come he wasn't able to do that in any of our other 6 close losses. In this one, just lose out and get a better pick.

[Deputy Nutz]

Thanks for the outlook. 9 or 10 looks like a good place to be if a lot of the juniors come out that they are projecting.

DE Everette Brown, DT Mount Cody and OT Eugene Monroe are all being talked about in that area of the draft. While the draft publications can be greatly off at the end of the first - the rest of the draft, they are usually pretty accurate in the top 10 or so. Assuming ESPN is close to reality, it looks like best player could meet one of our biggest needs.

I'm hoping for Everette Brown but I'd be damn happy with the other two as well. I'd take a stud anywhere (cept receiver or QB) but I'm really hoping it's one of the need areas this year.

Cody is interesting but I wouldn't risk a top ten pick on an overweight defensive tackle no matter how talented. It never seems to work out.

I could care less if the Packers win in Chicago, but if they pack it in against an 0-15 team two weeks from now poor Jim Rome will go on a shooting spree. I don't want that.

[Kyle.McCarroll]

[Cody is interesting but I wouldn't risk a top ten pick on an overweight defensive tackle no matter how talented. It never seems to work out.

Exactly. But he's not really uber talented; he's just bigger than everyone else. He needs to lose some weight and really work on his technique because just being bigger than everyone else won't work in the NFL. He would be wise to return to school.

As crazy it may seem to some of you, if Cody came out this year he probably wouldn't go in the first round.

[LL2]

We need a DE that can play opposite Kampman, not an overweight DT. We can move Jenkins back inside next year.

[Kyle.McCarroll]

We need a DE that can play opposite Kampman, not an overweight DT. We can move Jenkins back inside next year.

I disagree. I think a run-stuffing DT is priority #1. Cullen Jenkins provided a lot more help in the pass rush than in run support before he was injured and the stats prove it. When he comes back he will take the RDE spot back. A rookie DE probably wouldn't even start.

Ask any coach in the league if they would rather be able to consistently stop the run or rush the passer and my guess is that all 32 of them would choose to stop the run.

[MateoInMex]

Losing on purpose only happens in the NBA. Talk about a fall from grace since the mid 1980's then the Jordan era. What a shitty pass-time...watching the NBA...especially regular season games.

[denverYooper]

I still want them to beat the hell out of Chicago on Monday. No way should they just give up and lose out.

Someone brought up the point in a different thread that we're a more appealing FA suitor if we can finish with some W's. I agree.

[LL2]

I still want them to beat the hell out of Chicago on Monday. No way should they just give up and lose out.

Someone brought up the point in a different thread that we're a more appealing FA suitor if we can finish with some W's. I agree.

I agree. The team needs to have pride and win against Chicago and Detroit...but a top 10 pick would be a nice stocking stuffer.