Draft position? Interesting outlook now...

[MOBB DEEP]

Losing on purpose only happens in the NBA. Talk about a fall from grace since the mid 1980's then the Jordan era. What a shitty pass-time...watching the NBA...especially regular season games.

watchn celtics is AWESOME baby

peace larry joe bird

[MOBB DEEP]

play hard for the fans

[Freak Out]

Losing on purpose only happens in the NBA. Talk about a fall from grace since the mid 1980's then the Jordan era. What a shitty pass-time...watching the NBA...especially regular season games.

watchn celtics is AWESOME baby

peace larry joe bird

How many games have the Leprechauns lost....Like 2 or something? Amazing run so far.

[KYPack]

You people that are stupidly crying for a "more aggressive" D Coordinator are gonna be disappointed. Even if McCarthy yields to the whiners and gets rid of Sanders, he's not going to get some half-wit who favors a scheme that McCarthy himself doesn't like--overdoing the damn blitzing, zone instead of man coverage, or whatever other idiocy some in here want to see.

Well Tex, I'll "pick on" you, cause I know you can take it.

We don't play man to man now. We play almost exclusively zone. A form of cover 2 as a matter of fact. I'll also "get" PB while I'm up. We play 95% a 4-3 under. Rarely see us in "over".

Our corners don't play man. They are playing press technique in a cover 2 zone. They get very little help out on that island from either the safties or the LB's, but it's a zone nonetheless.

When they are in coverage, they use man technique. It's virtually the same thing as man for the corners, but we don't play man to man defense. It's a cover two zone with the corners in press technique.

Posters get this wrong, announcers get this wrong, & goofballs that write articles for the Press Gazette & JSO get this wrong, but that's OK. This post is the true scoop. Tell Cris Collinworth, Tony Siragusa, and any other dipshit that tells you the Packers play man to man, that they don't , cause KY told you so.

The other thing that screws people up is the fact that we play a lot of match-up. Match-up is a zone coverage in which the player covers his zone until a player comes in coverage. When you are matched up, you cover that man for the duration of the play. In standard zone, you cover your patch and release the man when he leaves your area of responsibilty.

When you play standard zone and when you match-up are covered by rules. The main idea is, when the zone rotates and you are the last man, you now cover the man that comes into your zone all over the field.

It's real complicated. Some guys, whose first name is Brady and last name begins with a "P", never quite grasp the whole thing.

Tex, we don't have to fear junking our great man to man defense and some commie coming onto our team and installing an evil zone. Because we already got a zone.

Just like Obama, your worst nightmare is already here.

[MOBB DEEP]

Losing on purpose only happens in the NBA. Talk about a fall from grace since the mid 1980's then the Jordan era. What a shitty pass-time...watching the NBA...especially regular season games.

watchn celtics is AWESOME baby

peace larry joe bird

How many games have the Leprechauns lost....Like 2 or something? Amazing run so far.

23-2

tying best 25-game start with jordans bulls, willis reed, and wilts 76ers

[Gunakor]

You people that are stupidly crying for a "more aggressive" D Coordinator are gonna be disappointed. Even if McCarthy yields to the whiners and gets rid of Sanders, he's not going to get some half-wit who favors a scheme that McCarthy himself doesn't like--overdoing the damn blitzing, zone instead of man coverage, or whatever other idiocy some in here want to see.

There are some brilliant DC's that will come available Tex; we don't have one

Some of them favor the blitzing more than others; either way we are due for an upgrade there

The problem is not that we are too 'vanilla' it is that the players are not very disciplined in their assignments. They goof on assignments, they don't play with sound fundamentals, and they just don't appear to be a cohesive aggressive unit.

Simply put: the Packer defense does not appear to be well coached. Bates did a better job with less talent in an identical scheme.

Speaking of Bates, where is he now?

And I don't think he did it with less talent. He never had Charlie Peprah starting a game at SS, or had to move an OLB inside because the Pro Bowl alternate the previous year at MLB was lost for the season. He never had to start Montgomery at RDE because the guy who had 9.5 sacks at that position the year before fell off the map, and his replacemet was lost to IR early in the season.

Had we still been working with our starters, I'd agree with you. But, if we were still working with our starters, we have more than 5 wins at this point in the season too.

[Gunakor]

This is the Bears and the winless Lions -- imagine the embarassment of losing to an 0-15 club -- and people are talking about throwing the game? What is that?
I'd rather see GB win...especially since it comes down to 2 or three spots in the draft order.
I have no idea who TT will draft in R1; of course it will "BPA". For grins I'm going to throw out an idea: TT drafts a Safety.

I'll shake up the snow globe and predict TT spends a few more picks on OL & DL, and stuns PackerNation by signing a free agent TE to push the unspectacular duo of Humphrey/Finley for a roster spot.

Any chance he presses for Gonzo again now that there will be a new Chief in Kansas City?

[Freak Out]

Ok...you are the GM, on the clock and these four guys are there for you....who do you take?

DE/OLB, Brian Orakpo, Texas

OT, Andre Smith, Alabama (JR)

OT, Jason Smith, Baylor

DT, B. J. Raji, Boston College

You can assume we fired Sanders and switched to a 3-4 if you like.

Replace Nick?

LB Rey Maualuga, USC

[Partial]

You people that are stupidly crying for a "more aggressive" D Coordinator are gonna be disappointed. Even if McCarthy yields to the whiners and gets rid of Sanders, he's not going to get some half-wit who favors a scheme that McCarthy himself doesn't like--overdoing the damn blitzing, zone instead of man coverage, or whatever other idiocy some in here want to see.

There are some brilliant DC's that will come available Tex; we don't have one

Some of them favor the blitzing more than others; either way we are due for an upgrade there

The problem is not that we are too 'vanilla' it is that the players are not very disciplined in their assignments. They goof on assignments, they don't play with sound fundamentals, and they just don't appear to be a cohesive aggressive unit.

Simply put: the Packer defense does not appear to be well coached. Bates did a better job with less talent in an identical scheme.

Well, than Vanilla Bob is not teaching well enough and we're still do for an upgrade.

[Partial]

Rey will be the pick if he is there but I doubt he will be. He is as good as the San Fran MLB. Just a big nasty.

[BallHawk]

Rey will be the pick if he is there but I doubt he will be. He is as good as the San Fran MLB. Just a big nasty.

DL is of greater concern than the LBs.

Thus, Orakpo is the pick.

[Gunakor]

Rey will be the pick if he is there but I doubt he will be. He is as good as the San Fran MLB. Just a big nasty.

DL is of greater concern than the LBs.

Thus, Orakpo is the pick.

Agreed. Barnett coming back healthy next year will be a tremendous boost to this LB corps. There is no such saving grace for the DL next year, so that must be a primary concern during the offseason.

[LL2]

Rey will be the pick if he is there but I doubt he will be. He is as good as the San Fran MLB. Just a big nasty.

DL is of greater concern than the LBs.

Thus, Orakpo is the pick.

Next year they should start Chillar / Barnett / Hawk.

If Orakpo is a true stud and impact player then get him. It would be great to get Haynesworth too.

[Gunakor]

Rey will be the pick if he is there but I doubt he will be. He is as good as the San Fran MLB. Just a big nasty.

DL is of greater concern than the LBs.

Thus, Orakpo is the pick.

Next year they should start Chillar / Barnett / Hawk.

If Orakpo is a true stud and impact player then get him. It would be great to get Haynesworth too.

I would be pleased as punch if that were the way our LB corps looked next year. There's enough talent there to be one of the more dominanting LB corps in the entire league. Hopefully there will be a new DC in Green Bay next year that will allow them to be just that.

[Partial]

Rey will be the pick if he is there but I doubt he will be. He is as good as the San Fran MLB. Just a big nasty.

DL is of greater concern than the LBs.

Thus, Orakpo is the pick.

Depends who rates out as the better player. I haven't see much of this Orakpo, but I've seen a ton of Rey and he is a manimal.