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  • Questionable Coaching Decisions

    Something talked about in many threads, so I thought I would centralize it. Hindsight is easy, but which ones raised your suspicions as they occurred? I'll start:

    - going to Finley on crucial plays, when he is no part of the offense at other times. Has he earned it?
    - having Finley in the game at crucial times, when he continually has screwed up. Has he earned the confidence?
    - putting the whole game into a 4th and 1, at midfield with a lead, when the offense has failed miserably the last two plays. The momentum swing was huge.
    - getting "cute" at crucial times, such as running goal-to-go plays the offense seems confused about, with WRs running into each otheron one, players not knowing the formation on others, etc.. Don't you have "bread and butter" plays for down there?

    ....and that's just in the most recent game!

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    I'd like to add that on the last INT that all 4 WRs were on deep routes and there was nobody running a short 10 yd route. We were at our own 48 yard line with 40 sec left and a time out. We had plenty of time to still go with those 10-12 yd routes to go down the field. Horrible play call to force the QB to make a good deep throw, which didn't happen.
    All hail the Ruler of the Meadow!

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    • #3
      I think they absolutely LOVE finleys ability and are giving him a "pre training camp" since we are out of it anyway.
      The only time success comes before work is in the dictionary -- Vince Lombardi

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      • #4
        Running the fb on 4th and short.

        Play action would have worked big time.

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        • #5
          Originally posted by bobblehead
          I think they absolutely LOVE finleys ability and are giving him a "pre training camp" since we are out of it anyway.
          Could be, but they did even before they were out of it.

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          • #6
            Originally posted by Cheesehead Craig
            I'd like to add that on the last INT that all 4 WRs were on deep routes and there was nobody running a short 10 yd route. We were at our own 48 yard line with 40 sec left and a time out. We had plenty of time to still go with those 10-12 yd routes to go down the field. Horrible play call to force the QB to make a good deep throw, which didn't happen.
            oh my.... now i've heard it all on this forum.. forcing the qb to throw an int... hahaha.. wowzas

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            • #7
              Originally posted by Cheesehead Craig
              I'd like to add that on the last INT that all 4 WRs were on deep routes and there was nobody running a short 10 yd route. We were at our own 48 yard line with 40 sec left and a time out. We had plenty of time to still go with those 10-12 yd routes to go down the field. Horrible play call to force the QB to make a good deep throw, which didn't happen.
              Agreed, and the route they wanted was to the middle of the field. Usually those are the riskier passes, especially deep.

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              • #8
                Re: Questionable Coaching Decisions

                Originally posted by Patler
                Something talked about in many threads, so I thought I would centralize it. Hindsight is easy, but which ones raised your suspicions as they occurred? I'll start:

                - going to Finley on crucial plays, when he is no part of the offense at other times. Has he earned it?
                - having Finley in the game at crucial times, when he continually has screwed up. Has he earned the confidence?
                - putting the whole game into a 4th and 1, at midfield with a lead, when the offense has failed miserably the last two plays. The momentum swing was huge.
                - getting "cute" at crucial times, such as running goal-to-go plays the offense seems confused about, with WRs running into each otheron one, players not knowing the formation on others, etc.. Don't you have "bread and butter" plays for down there?

                ....and that's just in the most recent game!
                Your last bullet point was even happening last year as well. As an example there were a few times he would line up 5 wide on the goal line.

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                • #9
                  Good point on Finley---would rather have seen Babba in there!
                  Lombardi told Starr to "Run it, and let's get the hell out of here!" - 'Ice Bowl' December 31, 1967

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by Pacopete4
                    Originally posted by Cheesehead Craig
                    I'd like to add that on the last INT that all 4 WRs were on deep routes and there was nobody running a short 10 yd route. We were at our own 48 yard line with 40 sec left and a time out. We had plenty of time to still go with those 10-12 yd routes to go down the field. Horrible play call to force the QB to make a good deep throw, which didn't happen.
                    oh my.... now i've heard it all on this forum.. forcing the qb to throw an int... hahaha.. wowzas
                    Reading comprehension is not your strongest suit obviously. He never said the QB was forced to throw an INT. HE said the QB was forced to throw a good deep ball becuase all the recievers ran deep. Franky your trolling is getting quite old.

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by bobblehead
                      I think they absolutely LOVE finleys ability and are giving him a "pre training camp" since we are out of it anyway.
                      I tend to agree, but the dude won't be on the roster next year if he doesn't learn to STFU. You don't throw your QB under the bus. Remember what happened with the "idiot" kicker.

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                      • #12
                        Re: Questionable Coaching Decisions

                        Originally posted by cpk1994
                        Originally posted by Patler
                        Something talked about in many threads, so I thought I would centralize it. Hindsight is easy, but which ones raised your suspicions as they occurred? I'll start:

                        - going to Finley on crucial plays, when he is no part of the offense at other times. Has he earned it?
                        - having Finley in the game at crucial times, when he continually has screwed up. Has he earned the confidence?
                        - putting the whole game into a 4th and 1, at midfield with a lead, when the offense has failed miserably the last two plays. The momentum swing was huge.
                        - getting "cute" at crucial times, such as running goal-to-go plays the offense seems confused about, with WRs running into each otheron one, players not knowing the formation on others, etc.. Don't you have "bread and butter" plays for down there?

                        ....and that's just in the most recent game!
                        Your last bullet point was even happening last year as well. As an example there were a few times he would line up 5 wide on the goal line.
                        But that is because we have such a midget OL. They spread out to neutralize the size disadvantage. Going 5 wide is dumb, though. I'd go 4 personally with a back to really keep the D on its toes.

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by Pacopete4
                          Originally posted by Cheesehead Craig
                          I'd like to add that on the last INT that all 4 WRs were on deep routes and there was nobody running a short 10 yd route. We were at our own 48 yard line with 40 sec left and a time out. We had plenty of time to still go with those 10-12 yd routes to go down the field. Horrible play call to force the QB to make a good deep throw, which didn't happen.
                          oh my.... now i've heard it all on this forum.. forcing the qb to throw an int... hahaha.. wowzas
                          It's not forcing him to throw an interception, but it is selecting plays that are riskier in nature. In 2006, how many time did you hear MM complain about Favre's decisions to throw deep, in the middle, especially late in a play resulting in an interception. He said it is something they coach against all the time because of the risk. Those are always the riskier throws, yet by the play call he gave Rodgers only the riskier options. Is that a wise coaching decision?

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by Patler
                            Originally posted by Pacopete4
                            Originally posted by Cheesehead Craig
                            I'd like to add that on the last INT that all 4 WRs were on deep routes and there was nobody running a short 10 yd route. We were at our own 48 yard line with 40 sec left and a time out. We had plenty of time to still go with those 10-12 yd routes to go down the field. Horrible play call to force the QB to make a good deep throw, which didn't happen.
                            oh my.... now i've heard it all on this forum.. forcing the qb to throw an int... hahaha.. wowzas
                            It's not forcing him to throw an interception, but it is selecting plays that are riskier in nature. In 2006, how many time did you hear MM complain about Favre's decisions to throw deep, in the middle, especially late in a play resulting in an interception. He said it is something they coach against all the time because of the risk. Those are always the riskier throws, yet by the play call he gave Rodgers only the riskier options. Is that a wise coaching decision?
                            The one wildcard in that call would be did any of the WR run the wrong route? I mean, we sure wouldn't know just looking at that particular case.

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by Pacopete4
                              Originally posted by Cheesehead Craig
                              I'd like to add that on the last INT that all 4 WRs were on deep routes and there was nobody running a short 10 yd route. We were at our own 48 yard line with 40 sec left and a time out. We had plenty of time to still go with those 10-12 yd routes to go down the field. Horrible play call to force the QB to make a good deep throw, which didn't happen.
                              oh my.... now i've heard it all on this forum.. forcing the qb to throw an int... hahaha.. wowzas
                              As others have said, I did not say he was forced to throw an INT. ARod was put in a position to throw an accurate deep throw as his only option. He made a poor pass. Just wasn't put into a position to succeed with having some shorter pass options. I'm not excusing him for throwing the pick, just criticizing the play call itself.
                              All hail the Ruler of the Meadow!

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