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  • #16
    Originally posted by texaspackerbacker
    I'd be happy with a power running scheme; I'd be happy with the ZBS, whichever works--and either could under the right circumstances.

    The thing is, though, we AREN'T going to change. Why not? Well, for one thing, McCarthy apparently favors ZBS. The more significant reason, though, is that we have a whole stable of ZBS type linemen now.

    The biggest factor in favor of the ZBS, IMO, is that that type of O-Lineman is a lot easier to find. People can talk all they want about those road graders, but finding one who isn't such a clod that he is a liability in pass protection, etc. is pretty hard to do. And with the trend increasingly to quicker DEs, you need OTs that can do more than just take up space to stop them.

    Anyway, we do run a decent amount of variety--some power running, as has been said, a little bit of misdirection, etc. Every team has all of that in their playbook; It's just a question of how often you use whatever.

    What I want for next season is to draft a small quick change of pace RB--like Felix Jones, Ahmad Bradshaw, Steve Slaton, Tushard Choice, etc. That will make any scheme better.

    The other thing I want is to draft a Pat White-type "slash" player, and to have a capability for a little bit of spread or option on occasion.
    Well Tex, you and I have been disagreeing some lately, but we are on the same page on this one.

    I think our ZBS would be more effective in a mix. We run the same stuff a lot and very rarely get to the counters. Those backside plays only work if the defense is over-playing the front side. Opponents can stop our play side stuff, so there are few openings for the counter plays.

    Let's spice it up a little. Our OLine guys will now be in their 3rd or 4th season (with Sitton in his 2nd) Lets run some drive block/pull stuff that our guys can execute. Colledge ain't much of a drive blocker, but he's a brilliant down field, pull, & pass block guy (Now that he can pass block). Let's adapt our system and put in stuff they can do well.

    I'd like to see that old "power O" series back. Pull the LG thru the 0 hole and lead the FB. That made Ahman Green a few million. Let's dust it off, modernize it, & run the shit out of it.

    New personnel? Sure. We need a fast, tackle breaker. Our RB's are skilled, but they don't make their own holes. let's get some fresh blood and shake things up. I like Jackson, & Grant can do some things, but lets get the next Jones Drew or a Pat White and drive some defenses nuts.

    MM has fallen into some ruts, he needs some fresh thinking and use that offensive brain of his. He called some real Schottenheimer games this season. (Marty, not Kurt)

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    • #17
      Does anyone have a vid of the Moll hill getting his ass handed to him last night? At times it looked like he was playing across from Reggie White the way he was getting abused. Is he the best we have to throw out there at this point? He seemed better before.........
      C.H.U.D.

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      • #18
        No, I have no film, and frankly, I'd rather watch a current version of Ron Jeremy doing what he does than Moll not doing what he should.

        Here's my concern about the OL. Most on this board understand that it takes a few years for an OL to get NFL strong and technique sound. So you can't fix what ails us in the draft. Rather, you need to get an FA, and that does not mean a Klem.

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        • #19
          Besides the fact that our O line has been like a revolving door this season (isn't it true that if you keep the same guys together they will play better as a unit?) I wonder if Campen might be an issue too?

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