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    Pretty amusing, and mostly deferential, story from what appears to be an overseas journalist.



    Grey-bearded gridiron hero Favre defies time
    by Sebastian Smith

    NEW YORK (AFP) – If American football's helmeted, padded players look like space-age supermen, then quarterback Brett Favre resembles a hero from another time.

    Fans call him the "Gunslinger" and to see the tall, grey-bearded New York Jets star can indeed recall some haggard dueler from the Wild West.

    At 39, Favre is old for his brutal sport and looks it. His cropped hair and beard are grey, his face reddened and battered.

    After the Jets squeaked through to a lucky 31-27 victory against the Buffalo Bills last Sunday, Favre stood alone in the changing room, a small cut on one of his shins, looking closer to grandfatherly than top sportsman.

    Yet for one of the greatest quarterbacks of all time, age appears to be no more frightening than the Bills defenders -- ferocious men a decade younger and sometimes a good third heavier.

    Gunslingers, after all, like a good fight.

    "To me, you find out what you're made of in tough times," Favre remarked in his quiet southern drawl.

    Favre joined the Jets earlier this year after 16 seasons with the Green Bay Packers, where he led the way to a famous Super Bowl victory and broke just about every quarterback record in existence.

    Meadowlands Stadium outside Manhattan might seem a strange place for the legend's last hurrah.

    The Jets are poor cousins to New York's other football team, current Super Bowl champs the Giants, and they haven't won a Super Bowl since 1969.

    Even with Favre they can be embarrassingly erratic.

    For a while this season they looked to be transformed, riding a winning streak that made them shoo-ins for the post-season playoffs and even -- just maybe -- a tilt at the Super Bowl.

    But then came a three-game losing run prior to Sunday's victory and now they likely must win the final two games this month to survive into the playoffs.

    Critics say part of the blame for that rollercoaster falls on Favre.

    Teammates and fans say the opposite -- that he keeps the whole adventure going.

    "He has brought an energy to the team," receiver Wallace Wright said in the locker room after the Bills game as he put on his jacket and adjusted a huge diamond bracelet.

    A fresh-faced 24-year-old, Wright calls Favre "one of the greatest who ever lived" and says the veteran leads by example rather than through long speeches.

    Surprisingly, Favre is also regarded as one of the lads, someone renowned for off-field pranks -- he reportedly stuffed a dead animal in a Jets teammate's locker -- and joyous, schoolboy celebrations during games.

    "You'd think he's a rookie out there. He's out there having fun," Wright said.

    Favre's main contradiction, though, comes when he throws the ball.

    Football romantics love his signature long pass, a spiraling delivery that stretches physics and, when it works, can beat an entire team. For years he has been reputed to possess one of the strongest throwing arms in the game.

    Yet football pragmatists hate the long pass. It's risky, tends to land in the wrong hands, and can lose a game as much as win one.

    "Gunslinger" isn't always meant as a compliment.

    "He can be a miracle man, but it works both ways," said Jeremy Simon, 30, a fan attending Sunday's game against the Bills. "He can win a game or kill a game. He throws it all over the place -- he likes to take a bet."

    The Jets have tried to tame Favre, instructing him to stick to short passes.

    There are still glimpses of the old gambler and they are not always happy, just as the Jets' progress under his leadership has been far from smooth.

    Each time Favre's more adventurous passes misfired Sunday or ended in the hands of the Bills, the press box at Meadowlands erupted in groans.

    "Oh, he just couldn't resist, could he?" complained one journalist after Favre threw a third-quarter interception, promptly converted by the Bills into a lead.

    Favre acknowledged his weaknesses.

    "I under-threw it," he said. "Maybe I don't have the arm I once had."

    But he was in no mood to dwell on failings and nor are the legions of fans who gathered for boozy picnics in the stadium carpark before the game.

    "Any time he's on the field we have a chance to win," said Sean Winters, 43, who came from Long Island in his mini-van with friends, a mountain of beer cans, a barbecue, 40 steaks, and a black sofa.

    "He expects to win, so I expect to win."

    Favre is philosophical about whether he can produce a final miracle.

    Asked at a press conference earlier this month whether he still has the magic, he delved into his pocket with a smile.

    "Let me see what I've got," he said.
    "There's a lot of interest in the draft. It's great. But quite frankly, most of the people that are commenting on it don't know anything about what they are talking about."--Ted Thompson

  • #2
    "Teammates and fans say the opposite -- that he keeps the whole adventure going."

    This line says what I've been reading and seeing in the news around here......

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    • #3
      thanx harv
      They said God has a Tim Tebow complex!

      Brew Crew in 2011!!!

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      • #4
        He has not played as well lately but part of that is Mangini calling some of the most conservative games since Marty S Favre needs short passes and rythm . and he only threw one bad ball last week the other pick was right in his WR's hands and was dropped onto a player on the ground and bounced off him up into the arms of another defender. He also scrambled for 27 yards on one play I wondered if that was his longest run ever?

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        • #5
          Originally posted by prsnfoto
          and he only threw one bad ball last week
          Favre completed 1 of his last 8 passes in the 4th quarter... in a game that the Jets were losing by 4. You know as well as I do that if Rodgers had done that, you'd be raking him over the coals.
          "There's a lot of interest in the draft. It's great. But quite frankly, most of the people that are commenting on it don't know anything about what they are talking about."--Ted Thompson

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          • #6
            If Rodgers went 1-8 in the 4th I would be all over him, true. The problem is Rodgers lovers are the ones that always bring up Brett.

            If yo go 1-8 in the 4th you should be dogged no matter who you are.

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            • #7
              Originally posted by dissident94
              If Rodgers went 1-8 in the 4th I would be all over him, true. The problem is Rodgers lovers are the ones that always bring up Brett.

              If yo go 1-8 in the 4th you should be dogged no matter who you are.
              unless u're VICK DA GREAT!!! who wrecked lambeau mystique with his feet in post season

              due to be released into halfway house on inauguration day (glad im right here for that btw)

              YIPEE, power to the people......OBAMA 2012
              They said God has a Tim Tebow complex!

              Brew Crew in 2011!!!

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              • #8
                Originally posted by packinpatland
                "Teammates and fans say the opposite -- that he keeps the whole adventure going."

                This line says what I've been reading and seeing in the news around here......

                Teammates and fans say the opposite -- that he keeps the whole adventure going.

                "He has brought an energy to the team," receiver Wallace Wright said

                I miss that wily old gunslinger
                Baah

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                • #9
                  Statistically, Brett's in his worst three game stretch since 2002. He'll need to turn that around for them to win the division.
                  "There's a lot of interest in the draft. It's great. But quite frankly, most of the people that are commenting on it don't know anything about what they are talking about."--Ted Thompson

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                  • #10
                    The Packer fan in me wants to get the 2nd round pick.

                    The human being in me wants to see this whiny, selfish punk lose and get blasted down about 10 notches by the most relentless, nasty media mobb in our country.


                    Win/Win for me
                    Formerly known as JustinHarrell.

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by MOBB DEEP
                      Originally posted by dissident94
                      If Rodgers went 1-8 in the 4th I would be all over him, true. The problem is Rodgers lovers are the ones that always bring up Brett.

                      If yo go 1-8 in the 4th you should be dogged no matter who you are.
                      unless u're VICK DA GREAT!!! who wrecked lambeau mystique with his feet in post season

                      due to be released into halfway house on inauguration day (glad im right here for that btw)

                      YIPEE, power to the people......OBAMA 2012
                      Vick da great? Now that is funny

                      Do you even like the Packers? I seriously don't think I've seen you type one positive thing about the Packers or the organization.

                      Why don't you just start a Madden franchise and cheer for that? Then you can trade for all your favorite players (Favre, Vick) and actually have a TEAM you can get behind.
                      Go PACK

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by JustinHarrell
                        The Packer fan in me wants to get the 2nd round pick.

                        The human being in me wants to see this whiny, selfish punk lose and get blasted down about 10 notches by the most relentless, nasty media mobb in our country.


                        Win/Win for me
                        Tell us how you really feel

                        As for me, I hope he wins and goes out with style, and mends fences with the Packer front office. One offseason of complete drama didn't erase for me all the good things he did over the years as a Packer.
                        60% of the time it works every time.

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by HarveyWallbangers
                          Originally posted by prsnfoto
                          and he only threw one bad ball last week
                          Favre completed 1 of his last 8 passes in the 4th quarter... in a game that the Jets were losing by 4. You know as well as I do that if Rodgers had done that, you'd be raking him over the coals.
                          I was talking about his interceptions no doubt he has looked bad the last three weeks, either he is slipping much like rookies do hitting their wall or part of me thinks he needs reps and rythm and if you have watched the last three games Mangini has went back to his run,run,run play calling. As far as Rodgers I did rip him and the team for being 1-10 on third downs against Houston but I have no problem with how he has played this year for the most part he threw a couple great balls last week and he threw a couple terrible overthrows a lot like another guy we all used to watch.

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by JustinHarrell
                            The Packer fan in me wants to get the 2nd round pick.

                            The human being in me wants to see this whiny, selfish punk lose and get blasted down about 10 notches by the most relentless, nasty media mobb in our country.


                            Win/Win for me
                            Shouldn't you be rehabbing your fat worthless ass for next season?

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by Bossman641
                              Originally posted by MOBB DEEP
                              Originally posted by dissident94
                              If Rodgers went 1-8 in the 4th I would be all over him, true. The problem is Rodgers lovers are the ones that always bring up Brett.

                              If yo go 1-8 in the 4th you should be dogged no matter who you are.
                              unless u're VICK DA GREAT!!! who wrecked lambeau mystique with his feet in post season

                              due to be released into halfway house on inauguration day (glad im right here for that btw)

                              YIPEE, power to the people......OBAMA 2012
                              Vick da great? Now that is funny

                              Do you even like the Packers? I seriously don't think I've seen you type one positive thing about the Packers or the organization.

                              Why don't you just start a Madden franchise and cheer for that? Then you can trade for all your favorite players (Favre, Vick) and actually have a TEAM you can get behind.

                              this is actually pretty funny.....HONESTLY..

                              but yes i have posted positives. in fact i believe that my prediction for packs record this year was higher than mostly everyone here (11-5). thats b/c i i had more faith in aaron's skills (and the wealth of talent on the squad) than the "experts" on this forum

                              and i DO like players other than the packers...dont u?? its ENTERTAINMENT and NOTHING else
                              They said God has a Tim Tebow complex!

                              Brew Crew in 2011!!!

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