The Fullbacks

[KYPack]

I sometimes wonder, if innovation isn't the key to improvement and success in the NFL, why somebody - the Pack, perhaps? - doesn't try to re-invent the fullback position. People talk about shuttling tailbacks in and out now, using a two back system - what about two featured backs that are both in the backfield at the same time, one of whom is a fullback?

The investment would be minimal draft-wise. When was the last time a fullback was drafted in even the second round? If there is one, it's probably only one. The point is, you could have your pick of the litter. Then maybe design some carries for the guy, so defenses have to actually guard the guy instead of treating him like a sixth lineman.

Short of all that, I think KY's above post is spot on. On all counts.

Fritz for leader.

I've thought the exact same thing.

For too many seasons now, the fullback has become a guard in the backfield. The idea that you can take a college LB and make him a NFL FB is somewhat silly. The FB position has become a waste. Why not have your tailback fronted by a guy who runs a circle route now and then for a 15 yard gain? Make the D account for the guy instead of a charging bull that does the same thing play after play.

Kuhn is a guy who could stand to be a little lighter on his feet. When he has trouble in pass pro, it's against move men.

The "Wild hog" showed NFL OC's that new ideas could work, why not go with two backs working in concert?

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[digitaldean]

Ever imagine how many yards, Grant could have if our FBs were even HALF as good as Hendo, Lorenzo Neal or Tony Richardson. They could pound the rock ad nauseum and beat the opponents into submission.

[Pugger]

they played well for Favre last year.... hehe

They played well for Rodgers to open this year too. What's your point?

By the way, let this be entered into evidence as exhibit A that it is NOT just the Rodgers supporters that bring up Favre's name. And call it exhibit A only because I lack the desire to dig up all the other times it has happened.

yeah, no need for that pete

it was a god damn joke people... they are fullbacks... big f'in deal... haha god ur a woman gunkor

YOu are the one to talk. SOmeone makes a joke you don't like and you throw a tantrum like a 4 year old. Pot meet kettle.

Boys, boys!! Stop the bickering. I do agree we don't need to bring Brett into EVERY COTTON PICKIN' THREAD but let's not be childish and act like the creeps on the Green Bay Press-Gazette forums!

I think FB is a dying breed. How many guys in HS or college chose to play this position? Most fellas that play in the backfield would rather be the featured back and not the blocker. Heck, we had to convert a LB to play this position!

[hoosier]

The special teams situation screams for a coaching change. Something just is not working. They have lots of players with past ST success and/or with the physical qualities that should make them successful. Somehow the coaches just haven't gotten through to this group, or are not giving them the right tools with which to succeed. Since you can't replace ALL the players, maybe a coaching change would have benefit.

A recent JSO article about the dismal punting situation in GB this year quoted Stock (not sure if it was recent or old material) on the decision to cut Ryan at the end of camp. It sounded like Ryan's agent was encouraging him to seek a "second opinion" from a punting specialist to correct some mechanical flaws and that Stock was discouraging him, and from the sounds of it getting a little bent out of shape because someone would have the gall to think Stock didn't have the answer to everything. Stock came off sounding petty, arrogant and very closed in his thinking. It would be nice to see what someone else could do with this bunch.

[sharpe1027]

Re: The Fullbacks

Watching tape.

When I can get a video of the game, I watch it one or two times with Tivo to get the things it's tough to see on a first viewing. I've watched the FB's quite a bit, bc I've seen a lot of missed blocks on my first viewing.

I'm not going on an agenda here, just posting what I've seen.

The level of execution has to improve from the FB's.

Paco,

You are a stupid shit.

Thanks. I appreciate your take on it because I really haven't made a point to watch the FBs.

[KYPack]

Hall does seem to have a problem staying healthy.
Both are very raw as blockers, Hall having been a linebacker and Kuhn actually having been a featured back carrying and receiving, with not a lot of lead block experience. Kuhn had a bunch of school and conference records as a ball carrier. Maybe neither one will really "get it".

The special teams situation screams for a coaching change. Something just is not working. They have lots of players with past ST success and/or with the physical qualities that should make them successful. Somehow the coaches just haven't gotten through to this group, or are not giving them the right tools with which to succeed. Since you can't replace ALL the players, maybe a coaching change would have benefit.

Great point. You've got guys who CAN do it, why didn't they get it done this season? Stock obviously has some expertise and there are many teams that must envy our return teams with the brilliant Wil Blackmon.

There are many ST areas that have been a disaster. It's now obvious that Stock was behind the ouster of Ryan and the hiring of Frost. That went well, eh? Our punt and kick teams were down at the beginning and fell off the charts when Tracy White was cut. Kuhn and Hall weren't the only guys not getting after it on ST.

All the groups lost some fire.

Yeah, run Mike Stock off and bring in a new coach and some guys who want to light people up.

We can use it.