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    THE Brett Favre experiment, which began 131 days ago when he stepped off a private plane in Cleveland, has come down to this: two games, eight quarters, 120 minutes of football.

    If the Jets New York Jets ' season is over when the final whistle blows in two weeks, the trade with Green Bay that brought Favre to New York can be considered nothing but an absolute failure. The Jets knew this was the risk when they made the deal last summer.

    It was a bold move that rendered the future irrelevant. This was all about 2008. Chad Pennington Chad Pennington was jettisoned and Kellen Clemens Kellen Clemens was shoved aside. It put the Jets on the back page, and sold jerseys and PSLs, but how great has Favre's impact been on the field?

    Somehow, he made the Pro Bowl yesterday. But even the most ardent Jets supporter would admit that's the silliest trip to Hawaii since the Brady Bunch vacationed there.

    Favre has had some memorable moments, from six touchdowns against the Cardinals to leading the Jets to overtime dramatics in Foxborough. In the past three weeks, though, his play has slipped, and so has the team.

    His quarterback ratings in losses to Denver (60.9), San Francisco (60.8) and the miracle win over the Bills (61.4) are the worst healthy three-game stretch he's had since the end of the 2002 season.

    Favre started strong Sunday but fizzled after the first quarter. He threw two interceptions, one off a wacky bounce that wasn't his fault, the other a bad decision to throw into double coverage, compounded by an underthrow. That gave him an NFL-leading 17 interceptions.

    "I had him [but] underthrew it," Favre said Sunday after the 31-27 win. "Maybe I don't have the arm I used to have. I don't know."

    The last part of that comment was off-handed, but it may have shown a sliver of self-doubt we haven't seen from Favre before, and rightfully so.

    The 39-year-old quarterback badly missed wide open Dustin Keller on a third-down pass in the fourth quarter, and several other throws sailed out of his receivers' reach.

    Don't tell me about what a great downfield passer Favre is, either. Of his deep passes (balls that traveled in the air 21 or more yards), he's completed 12 of 47 (26 percent) for 405 yards, five touchdowns and eight interceptions for a rating of 58.86.

    Remember how Pennington was supposed to be such a terrible longball thrower. In 2006, his last full season as the Jets' starter, he completed 15 of 41 (37 percent) for 505 yards, six touchdowns and three interceptions for a 92.98 rating.

    Pennington's success in Miami has put Favre's performance under a more powerful microscope. Pennington is the fourth-rated passer in the NFL; Favre is 15th. This has spawned a what-if game among Jets fans: Would the Jets' record be 9-5 with Pennington instead of Favre?

    It's impossible to know the answer, but if the ultimate doomsday scenario comes true for the Jets and Pennington knocks them out of the playoffs in two weeks, Eric Mangini and Mike Tannenbaum better go into hiding.

    You can forget about 2009, too. You get the impression Deanna Favre isn't buying green bananas these days. Her husband sounds like a man on his last day of vacation: He's happy he made the trip, but he's ready to go home.

    That leaves two weeks for Favre to either make the high hopes that walked off that plane with him in Cleveland a reality, or end another sad chapter in Jets history.
    Formerly known as JustinHarrell.

  • #2
    And isn't it all about a championship. Even if they make it and flame out with a 4 INT game against a good team (when you can't get away with turnovers like you can when you have the easiest schedule in the NFL) isn't that an ultimate failure too.

    And were we really going to win one with Favre (after we hadn't in the last 12 years with him)? Is that 2nd or 3rd round draft pick (Collins/Jenning/Nelson/Jones/Colledge/Spitz) type player for the next 10 years going to help more than this one year with Brett anyway.

    It sucked, for many, to see him go. Here we are though. We're probably better off with Rodgers and Miami is probably better off with Pennington.
    Formerly known as JustinHarrell.

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      • #4
        Re: Favre has two more games to deliver

        [quote="JustinHarrell""I had him [but] underthrew it," Favre said Sunday after the 31-27 win. "Maybe I don't have the arm I used to have. I don't know."


        when i first heard him say that i was SO proud of his honesty; u know, that awesome trait/quality he's displayed for years and years....

        too bad "that guy" (TT) lied/lies....LOL

        however JH, as most rational jets fans realize THE experiment is ALREADY a success - DUH!!!
        They said God has a Tim Tebow complex!

        Brew Crew in 2011!!!

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        • #5
          Even if Miami doesn't knock the Jets out of the playoffs the management guys on the Jets are damn fools. They gave away a pretty good QB for nothing and the fella signed within their division now he just might come back to bite them in the rear - which would be the ultimate in irony! Can you imagin the howling around here if TT would've done the same with Brett and BF signed with the VIKINGS?

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          • #6
            Re: Favre has two more games to deliver

            Originally posted by MOBB DEEP

            however JH, as most rational jets fans realize THE experiment is ALREADY a success - DUH!!!
            There must not be many rational Jets fans and if those that enjoy losing out on championships are the rational ones, well, I hope we don't have many of them here in Green Bay. I especially hope our leadership doesn't fall under that loser umbrella of rationality.
            Formerly known as JustinHarrell.

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            • #7
              It has been a huge success--for the Packers! It was so nice of Brett to give us a draft choice and cap room as a retirement gift. Of course, the Jet's got what they wanted--a bump in publicity and revenues, regardless of the wins on the field.

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              • #8
                Originally posted by Pugger
                Even if Miami doesn't knock the Jets out of the playoffs the management guys on the Jets are damn fools. They gave away a pretty good QB for nothing and the fella signed within their division now he just might come back to bite them in the rear - which would be the ultimate in irony! Can you imagin the howling around here if TT would've done the same with Brett and BF signed with the VIKINGS?
                Not only that the Jets will not have a good QB possibly after this season and for sure in the next few years.

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by LL2
                  Originally posted by Pugger
                  Even if Miami doesn't knock the Jets out of the playoffs the management guys on the Jets are damn fools. They gave away a pretty good QB for nothing and the fella signed within their division now he just might come back to bite them in the rear - which would be the ultimate in irony! Can you imagin the howling around here if TT would've done the same with Brett and BF signed with the VIKINGS?
                  Not only that the Jets will not have a good QB possibly after this season and for sure in the next few years.
                  bretts playn 3 more years....
                  They said God has a Tim Tebow complex!

                  Brew Crew in 2011!!!

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                  • #10
                    Qb rating means crap.

                    Favre was hit int he legs by his lineman on that throw and that was the reason it was underthrown

                    Favre has to prove he can still play well late in the year or his playing days may be done.

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                    • #11
                      Re: Favre has two more games to deliver

                      Originally posted by JustinHarrell
                      Originally posted by MOBB DEEP

                      however JH, as most rational jets fans realize THE experiment is ALREADY a success - DUH!!!
                      There must not be many rational Jets fans and if those that enjoy losing out on championships are the rational ones, well, I hope we don't have many of them here in Green Bay. I especially hope our leadership doesn't fall under that loser umbrella of rationality.
                      u may be right so let me make it more personal...the experiment has been a success TO ME; it had me buying his jersey and spendn 500 on tickets for the season finale. and patinpackland has said all year that the buzz in the northeast has been incredible so im fairly sure im not the ONLY one who is happy with the decision

                      JH, do u really care how he "delivers" anyway? are u a jet or favre supporter?

                      btw, HE MADE 6 PRO BOWLERS THIS YEAR b/c of play, intangibles, and exposure

                      the BEST peeps to ask if it was a "success" are his teammates who were their last season really
                      They said God has a Tim Tebow complex!

                      Brew Crew in 2011!!!

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by dissident94
                        Favre has to prove he can still play well late in the year or his playing days may be done.

                        QFT, period.....

                        and jets can get cassell IF favre retires
                        They said God has a Tim Tebow complex!

                        Brew Crew in 2011!!!

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by LL2
                          Originally posted by Pugger
                          Even if Miami doesn't knock the Jets out of the playoffs the management guys on the Jets are damn fools. They gave away a pretty good QB for nothing and the fella signed within their division now he just might come back to bite them in the rear - which would be the ultimate in irony! Can you imagin the howling around here if TT would've done the same with Brett and BF signed with the VIKINGS?
                          Not only that the Jets will not have a good QB possibly after this season and for sure in the next few years.
                          Wel, if Favre is not that good anyways, then replacing him with somebody else should be no problem, right?
                          You haters need to get your stories straight (is he good or does he suck)
                          Baah

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                          • #14
                            Re: Favre has two more games to deliver

                            [quote=MOBB DEEP]
                            Originally posted by "JustinHarrell""I had him [but
                            underthrew it," Favre said Sunday after the 31-27 win. "Maybe I don't have the arm I used to have. I don't know."


                            when i first heard him say that i was SO proud of his honesty; u know, that awesome trait/quality he's displayed for years and years....

                            too bad "that guy" (TT) lied/lies....LOL

                            however JH, as most rational jets fans realize THE experiment is ALREADY a success - DUH!!!
                            You don't want to start that shit again. You have been warned.

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                            • #15
                              Re: Favre has two more games to deliver

                              [quote=cpk1994]
                              Originally posted by MOBB DEEP
                              Originally posted by "JustinHarrell""I had him [but
                              underthrew it," Favre said Sunday after the 31-27 win. "Maybe I don't have the arm I used to have. I don't know."


                              when i first heard him say that i was SO proud of his honesty; u know, that awesome trait/quality he's displayed for years and years....

                              too bad "that guy" (TT) lied/lies....LOL

                              however JH, as most rational jets fans realize THE experiment is ALREADY a success - DUH!!!
                              You don't want to start that shit again. You have been warned.
                              start what?

                              i was joking about brett calln TT a liar on fox....and i said reasonable jet fans are already pleased with bretts impact...


                              ?????

                              am i not allowed to joke about our, i mean you all's GM?? WTH???
                              They said God has a Tim Tebow complex!

                              Brew Crew in 2011!!!

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