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  • A-Rod = Jeff Garcia?

    Great stats, pro bowls playoff victories but no super bowl wins.

    Is this A-Rod's future? Your thoughts Packers Nation.

  • #2
    I'll tell you in a decade.
    Originally posted by 3irty1
    This is museum quality stupidity.

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    • #3
      Re: A-Rod = Jeff Garcia?

      Originally posted by rbaloha
      Great stats, pro bowls playoff victories but no super bowl wins.

      Is this A-Rod's future? Your thoughts Packers Nation.
      Well, A-Rod sounds cooler in interviews....everytime I hear or watch Jeff Garcia, the statement he made after a loss a few years back keeps playing in my head:

      "My passes just didn't feel crissssssp"- was the subject of many sports talk radio banter for a while.

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      • #4
        Originally posted by Zool
        I'll tell you in a decade.
        I agree. It is just too early to determine. This is only A-Rod's first year as a starter.

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        • #5
          Let's just hope he gets as hot of a wife.
          All hail the Ruler of the Meadow!

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          • #6
            ARod is kind of unique. Big arm. Mobile. Smart. Good leader. Hard worker. Good guy. It's hard to compare him to any one quarterback at this point in his career. Let's see how his anticipation and feel for the game develop. He has a lot of upside. The teams surrounding him are going to play a part in how he (and any other QB) is judged. I'd say his skills are similar to many quarterbacks.


            Jeff Garcia
            Rich Gannon
            Steve Young
            Joe Montana

            He has as good of physical ability as any of these guys. How will his understanding and anticipation for the game develop? How good are the teams he plays on? There are several things that will play into whether he wins superbowls or not. You have to remember, even the great SB winners had top 5 defenses and good ST's to win it. It's not a one man game. Some of the guys who have never won one might have won 6 if they were on the same teams as another guy. Brett could have won 3 or zero if his teams would have been different. SB wins on one guy is just silly iMO.
            Formerly known as JustinHarrell.

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            • #7
              Originally posted by Cheesehead Craig
              Let's just hope he gets as hot of a wife.
              I think he overcompensated when the rumors started that he was "sexually challenged".

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              • #8
                As I've said, Arod had been better than I could hvae imagined... but this system requires a HOF calibur QB, or at least an All-Pro calibur QB.

                Arod will never be that, hence no SB's in our future... don't know who I'd compare him to though. Certainly not Montana or Young, that's ridiculous.
                wist

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by JustinHarrell
                  ARod is kind of unique. Big arm. Mobile. Smart. Good leader. Hard worker. Good guy. It's hard to compare him to any one quarterback at this point in his career. Let's see how his anticipation and feel for the game develop. He has a lot of upside. The teams surrounding him are going to play a part in how he (and any other QB) is judged. I'd say his skills are similar to many quarterbacks.


                  Jeff Garcia
                  Rich Gannon
                  Steve Young
                  Joe Montana

                  He has as good of physical ability as any of these guys. How will his understanding and anticipation for the game develop? How good are the teams he plays on? There are several things that will play into whether he wins superbowls or not. You have to remember, even the great SB winners had top 5 defenses and good ST's to win it. It's not a one man game. Some of the guys who have never won one might have won 6 if they were on the same teams as another guy. Brett could have won 3 or zero if his teams would have been different. SB wins on one guy is just silly iMO.
                  That is just crazy talk. He is not like any of those guys.

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by KYPack
                    Originally posted by Cheesehead Craig
                    Let's just hope he gets as hot of a wife.
                    I think he overcompensated when the rumors started that he was "sexually challenged".
                    Oh if we could all overcompensate like that.
                    All hail the Ruler of the Meadow!

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by Partial
                      Originally posted by JustinHarrell
                      ARod is kind of unique. Big arm. Mobile. Smart. Good leader. Hard worker. Good guy. It's hard to compare him to any one quarterback at this point in his career. Let's see how his anticipation and feel for the game develop. He has a lot of upside. The teams surrounding him are going to play a part in how he (and any other QB) is judged. I'd say his skills are similar to many quarterbacks.


                      Jeff Garcia
                      Rich Gannon
                      Steve Young
                      Joe Montana

                      He has as good of physical ability as any of these guys. How will his understanding and anticipation for the game develop? How good are the teams he plays on? There are several things that will play into whether he wins superbowls or not. You have to remember, even the great SB winners had top 5 defenses and good ST's to win it. It's not a one man game. Some of the guys who have never won one might have won 6 if they were on the same teams as another guy. Brett could have won 3 or zero if his teams would have been different. SB wins on one guy is just silly iMO.
                      That is just crazy talk. He is not like any of those guys.
                      You don't know that yet.

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by cpk1994
                        Originally posted by Partial
                        Originally posted by JustinHarrell
                        ARod is kind of unique. Big arm. Mobile. Smart. Good leader. Hard worker. Good guy. It's hard to compare him to any one quarterback at this point in his career. Let's see how his anticipation and feel for the game develop. He has a lot of upside. The teams surrounding him are going to play a part in how he (and any other QB) is judged. I'd say his skills are similar to many quarterbacks.


                        Jeff Garcia
                        Rich Gannon
                        Steve Young
                        Joe Montana

                        He has as good of physical ability as any of these guys. How will his understanding and anticipation for the game develop? How good are the teams he plays on? There are several things that will play into whether he wins superbowls or not. You have to remember, even the great SB winners had top 5 defenses and good ST's to win it. It's not a one man game. Some of the guys who have never won one might have won 6 if they were on the same teams as another guy. Brett could have won 3 or zero if his teams would have been different. SB wins on one guy is just silly iMO.
                        That is just crazy talk. He is not like any of those guys.
                        You don't know that yet.
                        I don't know how you can put all of those guys in a list...very different qb's, imo. Maybe some of the same traits at different points in their career?

                        He's mobile, and has shown a willingness to scramble and make the D watch for him, while not being a 'running' qb. Those are traits similar to Young.

                        I'm not sure how a Montana comparison comes about - Montana was thought to be weak armed, but with great awareness - almost the opposite of what we credit ARod with at this point.

                        Garcia I don't know enough about.

                        Gannon? He was in the league almost 10 years before he became a very good QB - and when he did well, it was in an almost pure West Coast offense (both before and after Gruden left Oakland). I'm not sure how he's like Rodgers at all.
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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by cpk1994
                          Originally posted by Partial
                          Originally posted by JustinHarrell
                          ARod is kind of unique. Big arm. Mobile. Smart. Good leader. Hard worker. Good guy. It's hard to compare him to any one quarterback at this point in his career. Let's see how his anticipation and feel for the game develop. He has a lot of upside. The teams surrounding him are going to play a part in how he (and any other QB) is judged. I'd say his skills are similar to many quarterbacks.


                          Jeff Garcia
                          Rich Gannon
                          Steve Young
                          Joe Montana

                          He has as good of physical ability as any of these guys. How will his understanding and anticipation for the game develop? How good are the teams he plays on? There are several things that will play into whether he wins superbowls or not. You have to remember, even the great SB winners had top 5 defenses and good ST's to win it. It's not a one man game. Some of the guys who have never won one might have won 6 if they were on the same teams as another guy. Brett could have won 3 or zero if his teams would have been different. SB wins on one guy is just silly iMO.
                          That is just crazy talk. He is not like any of those guys.
                          You don't know that yet.
                          Rodger's skills remind me of Jim Kelly. The whole record thing has yet to be determined.
                          Minnesota Vikings
                          NFC North Champions 2008 and 2009.

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                          • #14
                            Re: A-Rod = Jeff Garcia?

                            Originally posted by rbaloha
                            Great stats, pro bowls playoff victories but no super bowl wins. .
                            Rodgers will be the next Dan Marino. The greatest passer in history, yet falls short of a super bowl win, and is left to scrap together a living by pitching isotoner gloves.

                            I think it is easy to predict that any QB won't win a Super Bowl because most don't. Favre only got one. Just like Jeff Hostetler, Trent Dilfer and Brad Johnson. Rex Grossman came closer to winning a Super Bowl than Marino.

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                            • #15
                              Steve Young
                              Lombardi told Starr to "Run it, and let's get the hell out of here!" - 'Ice Bowl' December 31, 1967

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