Losing a battle but winning the war

[RashanGary]

Watch the Vikigns this year. That is a perfect example of what and why Ted will not do what they do. They will not win it. In 10 years nobody will remember that you snuck into the playoffs. All we'lll remember is that you didn't win the superbowl.

Teh difference is that instead of getting better and taking the next step you are going to start to crumble. The best advice I can give to a Packer fan that wants that tyep of leadership is to start following the Vikings. I'll stick here with the Pack and we'll be back to stick it to you for several years. The Vikings are crumbling. I truely believe that.

[Rastak]

If they win the division is that sneaking into the playoffs? Define "sneaking into the playoffs"?

[RashanGary]

If they win the division is that sneaking into the playoffs? Define "sneaking into the playoffs"?

Not being a team capable of winning it. Getting in, in a weak division. Going one and done once you get there. Those types of things.


Also, the Bears are going to take us down this week and I think you're going to lose to ATL. We all know how the Giants play the last games of the season so I'm sure we can expect a pound the ball down your throat season finally next week. The odds of you even getting in after selling it all out for right now are not as great as many think and once you get there, if you get there, I don't think you'll make it past game one with that QB and without Fat Pat. Just my opinion. Good luck though. I hope the Vikings do well so they can get a new stadium and the North can be healthy and strong going forward.

[Rastak]

Very possible, I will admit. I'd rather be trying though that watching the guys play golf. I do that damn near every year, and even the Packers have 3 or the last 4.

[Pugger]

The Vikes are winning because of AP and a decent defense. That'll get you in the playoffs but without a top notch QB I don't see them going much further than that.

[RashanGary]

Very possible, I will admit. I'd rather be trying though that watching the guys play golf. I do that damn near every year, and even the Packers have 3 or the last 4.

Haha. Yeah. It hasn't been a great run. If the Vikes find a QB (cassel?), maybe they can take that next step. Peterson is a great player. Some guys might want to go there jsut to play iwth him. I don't approve of that style of building but a lot of fans love it. Hopefully it pans out. I've been here beating my, "Thompsons way is going to work" drum for quite some time. I'm not going to give it up just yet

[RashanGary]

The Vikes haven't used top tier UFA all that much. Sharper was a mid level guy. Longwell a mid level guy. Hutchinson was a top tier guy. They've had several other mid level guys. Barrian was a bad move IMO. Had they not made that move, they could afford a QB next year.

They got Allen trading high picks. They got Peterson with a high pick. They got Kevin Williams with a high pick. EJ Henderson with a high pick. Their best talent has come through the draft (either by trading picks or picking their best players).

They're really not that different than us. I just don't think it's going to work out. It's a big task winning the SB. It's much easier to sit and predict a team will not win it than it is to predict they will. If I was a Viking fan, I'd love watching Peterson and I'd love watching their DL. This year, I'd much rather be a Viking fan. I just believe in Teddy boy a whole lot, so I'm still excited about my Packers. Maybe I have Tex syndrome.

[Rastak]

The Vikes haven't used top tier UFA all that much. Sharper was a mid level guy. Longwell a mid level guy. Hutchinson was a top tier guy. They've had several other mid level guys.

They got Allen trading high picks. They got Peterson with a high pick. They got Kevin Williams with a high pick. EJ Henderson with a high pick. Their best talent has come through the draft (either by trading picks or picking their best players).

They're really not that different than us. I just don't think it's going to work out. It's a big task winning the SB. It's much easier to sit and predict a team will not win it than it is to predict they will.

Kevin Williams they got with a 7 but only had to pay 9 money. EJ was a 2nd rounder I think. Allen was traded for the 15th pick in the first round and a pair of 3rds. They definately overpaid for Berrian and Shiancoe, but both were exactly what was needed (now that Shiancoe traded his stumps for hands). Madeu Williams is having a really nice year, that was a good upgrade at safety. The Vikings the last 3 years have mostly grabbed guys coming off their first contract and who are 26-27 years old. That's the way to go.

[Fritz]

Name any GM. I'll show you a bunch of blown picks.

Name a GM and I'll show you some good picks

At this point the only thing we know is that we lost the battle this year

Okay, Bretsky: Matt Millen.

You've got Calvin Johnson. And, uh, and, uh, uh.....

[texaspackerbacker]

What do Sherman and Thompson have in common?

They both believed in "rebuilding on the fly"--what the good teams do--NOT tearing the team down to rebuild, as we often read in this forum, and as some chronic loser teams often do.

[b bulldog]

The Vikings are doing a very good job of putting a nucleus together for the long haul except at the most important position of all, the QB. They have a nice mblend of youth and vets to work around and they are not afraid to dabble in UFA. They also draf quite well. The Packers got very lucky last season, they were a game away and they blew it. This team could easily be a double digit winner next year but they could also struggle again. The D is toally void of playmakers in the front seven besides Kampy and their Oline stinks.

[Bretsky]

Name any GM. I'll show you a bunch of blown picks.

Name a GM and I'll show you some good picks

At this point the only thing we know is that we lost the battle this year

Okay, Bretsky: Matt Millen.

You've got Calvin Johnson. And, uh, and, uh, uh.....

CJ and Ernie Simms