Dumb luck

[HarveyWallbangers]

Discuss.

[Bretsky]

good teams make their luck
good teams create breaks and capitalize on them

bad teams do not capitalize on breaks
Bad teams allow their weaknesses to create bad luck, so to speak

[RashanGary]

Some if it no, but this was a tough schedule, we missed two game winning FG's, we've had some tough injuries and all of MM's conservative coaching has blown up in his face.

Yes, it's been a season of really bad breaks but the DL was not a bad break. That was a problem from day one. The ST's was not bad luck. It's a little bit of both. I could see this team exploding back on the scene next year, but if Ted really likes these dlineman then I could see it being a similar season next year. I've believed in TT up till this point. It's time for him to put it together. It's not time to stay young and inexperiened. It's time to keep our good players and try to fill in some of the weaknesses.

[channtheman]

Coaching. I know I made a topic about luck, but I see now it is all coaching.

[Bretsky]

Want to talk about bad breaks
The Patriots lost the best player in the NFL


Yet they still stand

[imscott72]

The luck thing only goes so far. Good teams make their own luck. This team has had so many mental breakdowns in 4th quarters, it's like they're playing like they know something bad is going to happen. This team is so young and it's not too surprising to see this happening.

Shame on TT for not spending some of that money that just sat around on some vets that could of helped us out. There's no reason at all we should be the youngest team in the NFL two years in a row. Next year is make or break for both TT and MM. TT needs a monster draft and he needs to make a couple FA splashes. Sitting around being a tightass with the money will NOT be acceptable next year.

[digitaldean]

If you are referring that last year was lucky, maybe so. But any team has to have a run of luck to get the record we had last season. That being said, they cashed in when opportunity reared its head.

This year, I don't attribute much of it to luck. You make your own breaks. And for some unknown reason, they don't have the killer instinct to put away a lesser opponent.

Look at the first Bear game and the Colts game. One game might be a fluke, but those two games weren't a fluke. They played focused in ALL 3 phases. Right now, all 3 phases are more resembling Larry, Moe and Curly. The offense might find a way to get the ball moving, but dumbass playcalling (Carolina, tonight and at the end of the Minn. game) played NOT to lose. That prevent defense type of thinking is poisonous.

Though I think firing MM could be disruptive, that feeling of coaching ineptitude can eat up the locker room. If we lose to Detroit, I'd say screw it and fire them all. M3 had better pray his ass off that this team doesn't find a way to lose to Detroit.

Being a 7-9 team and not making playoffs would hurt, but being a 5-11 team that would lose to an 0-15 squad would make a lot of fans absolutely livid.

[HarveyWallbangers]

Partly true. Or, things don't go your way. Jets went 10-6 in 2006. Pennington got hurt and they went 4-12 in 2007. Steelers went 10-5-1 in 2002, 6-10 in 2003, and 15-1 in 2004. Tennessee was solid every year, went 9-23 in 2004 and 2005, and have been solid since. Seattle went 13-3 in 2006, went 10-6 in 2007, Hasselbeck got injured and they are 4-11 this year. We fix the DL and we'll surprise people next year. We have the QB to lead us.

[channtheman]

Partly true. Or, things don't go your way. Jets went 10-6 in 2006. Pennington got hurt and they went 4-12 in 2007. Steelers went 10-5-1 in 2002, 6-10 in 2003, and 15-1 in 2004. Tennessee was solid every year, went 9-23 in 2004 and 2005, and have been solid since. Seattle went 13-3 in 2006, went 10-6 in 2007, Hasselbeck got injured and they are 4-11 this year. We fix the DL and we'll surprise people next year. We have the QB to lead us.

But do we have the playcaller?

[HarveyWallbangers]

But do we have the playcaller?

I've liked his play calling the previous two years. Not so much this year, but I have faith in McCarthy. Division title in 2009.

[digitaldean]

Partly true. Or, things don't go your way. Jets went 10-6 in 2006. Pennington got hurt and they went 4-12 in 2007. Steelers went 10-5-1 in 2002, 6-10 in 2003, and 15-1 in 2004. Tennessee was solid every year, went 9-23 in 2004 and 2005, and have been solid since. Seattle went 13-3 in 2006, went 10-6 in 2007, Hasselbeck got injured and they are 4-11 this year. We fix the DL and we'll surprise people next year. We have the QB to lead us.

Yes, QB is the absolute LEAST of our worries. Finding special teams that can't find those new and inventive ways to give away a game (or blow a TD return with a penalty) would be a godsend.

[Bretsky]

But do we have the playcaller?

I've liked his play calling the previous two years. Not so much this year, but I have faith in McCarthy. Division title in 2009.

Yes, we should go 9-7 next year at least

[red]

when it happens 8 times its not bad luck anymore

[RashanGary]

Partly true. Or, things don't go your way. Jets went 10-6 in 2006. Pennington got hurt and they went 4-12 in 2007. Steelers went 10-5-1 in 2002, 6-10 in 2003, and 15-1 in 2004. Tennessee was solid every year, went 9-23 in 2004 and 2005, and have been solid since. Seattle went 13-3 in 2006, went 10-6 in 2007, Hasselbeck got injured and they are 4-11 this year. We fix the DL and we'll surprise people next year. We have the QB to lead us.

I agree. I still believe in the direction of this team, but it has to show up next year. I can see how this happened this year, but I'll be far less understanding if it happens again.

[Bretsky]

Where in the heck is Tracy White anyways ??????/

He was one of our better ST players and didn't we bring up another furturite and cut his ass ???