Dumb luck

[red]

But do we have the playcaller?

I've liked his play calling the previous two years. Not so much this year, but I have faith in McCarthy. Division title in 2009.

was it M3's playcalling the last 2 years? or was it a certain qb that use to audible out and call some of his owns plays that weren't so pussified?

[Bossman641]

I really don't even know what I would call this season.

There are so many things going wrong that you can't even pin it on one thing. It seems like NOTHING goes the Packers' way. Rodgers' pass gets deflected and it goes straight up in the air to Alex Brown. A pass bounces off Hester and lands innocently between 3 defenders.

The cb grabs Driver's arm and it is no call. Rouse rides a guy out of bounds and they call horsecollar.

But there's so much more to this than just bad luck or bad calls. Bad coaching, bad execution, stupid players, the same fucing mistakes over and over again.

[HarveyWallbangers]

Missing a GW FG vs. Minnesota, losing the coin toss against Tennessee, having a bad spot on 4th down in this game, hiking it over the guys head against Carolina, having a couple of bad calls in other games (not calling Steve Smith for PI, but then calling our guy for PI on a similar play late in another game) is just pure dumb luck. I could go on, but this has just been one of those years.

[Badgerinmaine]

Want to talk about bad breaks
The Patriots lost the best player in the NFL


Yet they still stand

True, but they stand going into the last week of the season looking at potentially not making the playoffs.

I think things have snowballed for the Packers this year--you get some bad breaks early, and you start pressing, and wondering "are we going to mess this up again?" Bad luck and good luck do create some momentum, even if they are "residue of design".

[channtheman]

But do we have the playcaller?

I've liked his play calling the previous two years. Not so much this year, but I have faith in McCarthy. Division title in 2009.

I feel that this is where Favre came into the equation. Favre would go to the huddle and change the play call. When MM would want to run it 3 times in a row, Favre said "Fuck that, we play to win" and would pass the ball.

I could be totally wrong but I don't see how MM regresses so much since I didn't notice such pussy playcalling last year either.

[esoxx]

Where in the heck is Tracy White anyways ??????/

Philadelphia.

He was the leader of that ST crew but was found expendable to promote Lasagna from the Practice Squad.

Bright move.

[channtheman]

But do we have the playcaller?

I've liked his play calling the previous two years. Not so much this year, but I have faith in McCarthy. Division title in 2009.

was it M3's playcalling the last 2 years? or was it a certain qb that use to audible out and call some of his owns plays that weren't so pussified?

That's exactly what I think is the problem too. Rodgers is scared to change the play I think and Favre was like "What? You gonna fucking trade me or soemthing?"

[red]

But do we have the playcaller?

I've liked his play calling the previous two years. Not so much this year, but I have faith in McCarthy. Division title in 2009.

I feel that this is where Favre came into the equation. Favre would go to the huddle and change the play call. When MM would want to run it 3 times in a row, Favre said "Fuck that, we play to win" and would pass the ball.

I could be totally wrong but I don't see how MM regresses so much since I didn't notice such pussy playcalling last year either.

i think you're spot on

[HarveyWallbangers]

Except, Favre admitted he didn't audible much last year. His audibling has done much for the Jets this year. Let's be real. Rodgers made the throw he needed to make. Got the Packers within FG range, then Crosby got a very makeable FG blocked, we lost the OT coin toss, and the defense didn't hang on.

[channtheman]

Except, Favre admitted he didn't audible much last year.

Well in that case, MM has regressed and hasn't shown signs of improvement. Fire him.

[dabootski]

But do we have the playcaller?

I've liked his play calling the previous two years. Not so much this year, but I have faith in McCarthy. Division title in 2009.

I feel that this is where Favre came into the equation. Favre would go to the huddle and change the play call. When MM would want to run it 3 times in a row, Favre said "Fuck that, we play to win" and would pass the ball.

I could be totally wrong but I don't see how MM regresses so much since I didn't notice such pussy playcalling last year either.

i think you're spot on

really? do you really think a first year starter should come in and override the coach's calls at the end of a game?

[TennesseePackerBacker]

But do we have the playcaller?

I've liked his play calling the previous two years. Not so much this year, but I have faith in McCarthy. Division title in 2009.

I feel that this is where Favre came into the equation. Favre would go to the huddle and change the play call. When MM would want to run it 3 times in a row, Favre said "Fuck that, we play to win" and would pass the ball.

I could be totally wrong but I don't see how MM regresses so much since I didn't notice such pussy playcalling last year either.

i think you're spot on

I think you've both seen too many movies. No QB in the NFL would have a job unless they ran the plays called by the coaches. Check downs and line audibles are part of games, but if you think Favre just called his own play in the huddle you people need your heads checked.

[Bossman641]

But do we have the playcaller?

I've liked his play calling the previous two years. Not so much this year, but I have faith in McCarthy. Division title in 2009.

I feel that this is where Favre came into the equation. Favre would go to the huddle and change the play call. When MM would want to run it 3 times in a row, Favre said "Fuck that, we play to win" and would pass the ball.

I could be totally wrong but I don't see how MM regresses so much since I didn't notice such pussy playcalling last year either.

i think you're spot on

I think you've both seen too many movies. No QB in the NFL would have a job unless they ran the plays called by the coaches. Check downs and line audibles are part of games, but if you think Favre just called his own play in the huddle you people need your heads checked.

Agree

TJ Rubley anyone??

No QB would last if the coach is telling him to run dives and the QB is changing the play to a pass, win or lose.

[digitaldean]

OK, OK enough of this Brett would've told MM to screw himself and make the game winning play.

I'd expect that out of Partial or Pacopete, but not from tonight's posters.

I'll buy the uber-conservative playcalling as a cause. I'll also buy the fact that special teams must have to ride the short bus to get to the games, because they play like it.

But in no way on God's green earth does this Favre's presence make a difference with performances like tonights. Last year's teams found ways to win together. Favre carries the team vs. the Chiefs and after falling behind vs. the Seachickens. But the D made HUGE plays when called upon when needed. Crosby nails a tough pressure packed FG in the first game vs. Eagles to seal the deal (thanks to a Philly ST gaffe).

This year, the mentaility of this team is the "Oh no, not again" situation. ALSO, look at the sheer multitude of boneass penalties in this game. If Bush, Moll and Stock were left home, we actually would have won handily tonight. (probably could throw Blackmon in there too)

The D needed to make a stop in OT and failed. The coaches could have called a little more open type of play calling at the end to try and get in the endzone.

Or maybe we just have a team that can learn to do the little things like KICK, TACKLE and BLOCK (without getting a penalty called)!

[esoxx]

Packers still have run/pass option they can check to at the line. I remember after a game earlier this season where MM indicated he felt Rodgers played well but was disappointed on one of his line checks where he went with a throw to Jennings on 3rd down instead of the run called. MM gives latitude to his QB, unlike Sherman who just wanted the play run the way he called it.