Why SHOULD McCarthy Stay?

[Bossman641]

He has a house in GB.

[channtheman]

For me, this is an easy decision, based on a few reasons:

1. Continuity - look at the bottom feeder teams in the NFL. They are always cycling through coaches, and never get anywhere. You can't build a program if you don't give a guy a chance to succeed.

2. Circumstances of this season - I know an argument can be made for McCarthy being directly accountable for the losses (for example, the Bears game tonight - he should have challenged the spot on the 4th and 1 play late), but losing so many close games to me is a sign of a team on the brink of success. Maybe I'm too much of an optimist.

3. Past Success - He led an 8-8 team the previous season to a 13-3 record and an NFC championship birth. My opinion is that last year's team outperformed expectations (with the exception of the game that really mattered - the championship game), which tells me that maybe he did an exceptional job last season, and is capable of doing so again next year.

4. Who else is available? - I believe the typical fan is too quick to call for the head of a coach without considering the alternatives. If somebody can convince me an available coach is better than McCarthy, I will listen to the argument, but too often we hear "FIRE THE COACH" without mention of a suitable alternative.

You have good points and I suppose it makes sense to give him one more shot. I just needed to calm down. Now all we need to do is get a really good defense that can hold on to a lead when MM turns conservative in the 2nd half.

I've just got one question for you. What happens if we lose to the Lions? I imagine all hell breaks loose!

[digitaldean]

If he loses to Detroit, I think that's the result most fans would consider inexcusable. Most of the last second losses have been vs. playoff caliber teams. But if we lose to an 0-15 team, there may be a lot of people that may want him gone.

Having an off year, it can happen. But to totally collapse, which is what a loss to Detroit would signify, would mean M3 has lost that team.

If they beat Detroit, I could give him 1 more year to get things fixed. But if we repeat this year in 2009, he'll be gone by midseason.

[Gunakor]

For me, this is an easy decision, based on a few reasons:

1. Continuity - look at the bottom feeder teams in the NFL. They are always cycling through coaches, and never get anywhere. You can't build a program if you don't give a guy a chance to succeed.

2. Circumstances of this season - I know an argument can be made for McCarthy being directly accountable for the losses (for example, the Bears game tonight - he should have challenged the spot on the 4th and 1 play late), but losing so many close games to me is a sign of a team on the brink of success. Maybe I'm too much of an optimist.

3. Past Success - He led an 8-8 team the previous season to a 13-3 record and an NFC championship birth. My opinion is that last year's team outperformed expectations (with the exception of the game that really mattered - the championship game), which tells me that maybe he did an exceptional job last season, and is capable of doing so again next year.

4. Who else is available? - I believe the typical fan is too quick to call for the head of a coach without considering the alternatives. If somebody can convince me an available coach is better than McCarthy, I will listen to the argument, but too often we hear "FIRE THE COACH" without mention of a suitable alternative.

You have good points and I suppose it makes sense to give him one more shot. I just needed to calm down. Now all we need to do is get a really good defense that can hold on to a lead when MM turns conservative in the 2nd half.

I've just got one question for you. What happens if we lose to the Lions? I imagine all hell breaks loose!

Detroit doesn't win at Lambeau. Ever. Why is everyone so worried that this 0-15 Lions team is going to be the first to win a game at Lambeau in ages? I'm not worried in the least.

Yes, all hell would break loose if Green Bay lost to THIS Lions team at Lambeau.

[BallHawk]

4. Who else is available? - I believe the typical fan is too quick to call for the head of a coach without considering the alternatives. If somebody can convince me an available coach is better than McCarthy, I will listen to the argument, but too often we hear "FIRE THE COACH" without mention of a suitable alternative.

Exactly. Unless there are any coaches out there that have taken teams to Super Bowls it isn't even worth discussing getting a new coach. Does anybody seriously believe that some team's OC or DC is better for this team than Mike?

[Partial]

Because he's one of the best coaches in the league? He coaches to the players that he has. Obviously he cannot run and gun it without a stud QB, and especially not when their back was injured to start the year.

Defensive staff has gotta go. MM is a good coach imo.

[Bretsky]

4. Who else is available? - I believe the typical fan is too quick to call for the head of a coach without considering the alternatives. If somebody can convince me an available coach is better than McCarthy, I will listen to the argument, but too often we hear "FIRE THE COACH" without mention of a suitable alternative.

Exactly. Unless there are any coaches out there that have taken teams to Super Bowls it isn't even worth discussing getting a new coach. Does anybody seriously believe that some team's OC or DC is better for this team than Mike?

And what if there are ?

I can think of three in broadcasting without even thinking about it further

And I'd bet one will be back next year and one within three years

[Partial]

4. Who else is available? - I believe the typical fan is too quick to call for the head of a coach without considering the alternatives. If somebody can convince me an available coach is better than McCarthy, I will listen to the argument, but too often we hear "FIRE THE COACH" without mention of a suitable alternative.

Exactly. Unless there are any coaches out there that have taken teams to Super Bowls it isn't even worth discussing getting a new coach. Does anybody seriously believe that some team's OC or DC is better for this team than Mike?

And what if there are ?

I can think of three in broadcasting without even thinking about it further

And I'd bet one will be back next year and one within three years

Who besides Cowher?

[superfan]

I've just got one question for you. What happens if we lose to the Lions? I imagine all hell breaks loose!

I agree with you here and with digitaldean in his following post - if we lose to the Lions, then MM has likely lost the team and all bets are off.

I suppose I am enough of an MM apologist to say that it depends on the manner in which the loss were to happen - if it were a game that I feel he "coached" properly but we lost due to execution, then I might give him a pass. But that scenario is difficult to envision. Then again, we have already envisioned many scenarios this year that are difficult to envision.

[Gunakor]

4. Who else is available? - I believe the typical fan is too quick to call for the head of a coach without considering the alternatives. If somebody can convince me an available coach is better than McCarthy, I will listen to the argument, but too often we hear "FIRE THE COACH" without mention of a suitable alternative.

Exactly. Unless there are any coaches out there that have taken teams to Super Bowls it isn't even worth discussing getting a new coach. Does anybody seriously believe that some team's OC or DC is better for this team than Mike?

And what if there are ?

I can think of three in broadcasting without even thinking about it further

And I'd bet one will be back next year and one within three years

Who besides Cowher?

Jimmy Johnson and John Madden are the only ones I can think of next to Cowher off the top of my head...

[Bretsky]

4. Who else is available? - I believe the typical fan is too quick to call for the head of a coach without considering the alternatives. If somebody can convince me an available coach is better than McCarthy, I will listen to the argument, but too often we hear "FIRE THE COACH" without mention of a suitable alternative.

Exactly. Unless there are any coaches out there that have taken teams to Super Bowls it isn't even worth discussing getting a new coach. Does anybody seriously believe that some team's OC or DC is better for this team than Mike?

And what if there are ?

I can think of three in broadcasting without even thinking about it further

And I'd bet one will be back next year and one within three years

Who besides Cowher?

BILL COWHER
JIMMY JOHNSON
BRIAN BILLICK

[BallHawk]

And what if there are ?

I can think of three in broadcasting without even thinking about it further

And I'd bet one will be back next year and one within three years

Analyze the situation. Does the coach have the will to coach? Does the coach wanna coach in Green Bay? Does the coach's style fit our team? Etc.

Holmgren and Cowher are not realistic options, at this point.

[BallHawk]

BRIAN BILLICK

I'm a big Billick fan, but the stars have to allign (or not allign, depending on how you look at it) for anything like this to even be considered.

It starts with next season.

[Bretsky]

And what if there are ?

I can think of three in broadcasting without even thinking about it further

And I'd bet one will be back next year and one within three years

Analyze the situation. Does the coach have the will to coach? Does the coach wanna coach in Green Bay? Does the coach's style fit our team? Etc.

Holmgren and Cowher are not realistic options, at this point.

I forgot Holmy

I think Billick will be coaching soon

I think MM should stay

[digitaldean]

I can't see Holmy or the Jaw here. Both want GM type of power along with their HC duties.