With the 9th overall pick of the 2009 NFL Draft....

[Fred's Slacks]

I have to agree with JH. I'm no DL expert but from the clips I've seen, I like Brown better. He definately seems more explosive. I didn't get to see most of the Badger game but I did like what I saw from Brown in the limited plays I did see. He seems to constantly out "quick" the OL off the line and get himself in position to get penetration. He seems to use his hands well, which is rare I think for a college player. I think he could have an instant impact on our pass rush.

[ND72]

He "out quicked" a WISCONSIN Badger 350 pound Offensive Lineman? Shocking.

[Ballboy]

I watched all the Badgers game watching for Brown as I knew he would be possibly a top pick.

Yes, he got one sack, but if you watched closely, Graham blocked him most of the game....and for those that don't know, Graham is a TE!!!!!


If a college TE can block you, what do you think LT in the NFL will do to you?

[TennesseePackerBacker]

I'm not sold on any of the top DE's coming out this year. Did anyone hear Derrick Harvey's name this year? That's the DE Jacksonville picked 8th or 9th last year. DE's, as with any D-line pick really are a crapshoot. I highly doubt there is any correlation between spot picked and production.

Now, 1st round Safties and LT's have a much better history of panning out. We'll have our choice from 2 or 3 LT's and possibly Mays. A trade down in to the mid teens would allow the Pack to still land one of the LT's, take a flyer on one of the DE's since they now fit in to one of the BPA slots, or there will also be plenty of RB talent to choose from. While many of you haven't expressed this opinion(I know some have), I believe not having a home run/change of pace back really hinders the Packers rushing attack.

The only DE I would want to see drafted at pick #9 is Michael Johnson. He's only had one starting season but was very productive and has the frame and physical attributes to be a monster in the NFL. Brown, Orakapo, and all the other midget DE's are big gambles with such a high draft pick.

[swede]

I'm not sold on any of the top DE's coming out this year. Did anyone hear Derrick Harvey's name this year? That's the DE Jacksonville picked 8th or 9th last year. DE's, as with any D-line pick really are a crapshoot. I highly doubt there is any correlation between spot picked and production.

Now, 1st round Safties and LT's have a much better history of panning out. We'll have our choice from 2 or 3 LT's and possibly Mays. A trade down in to the mid teens would allow the Pack to still land one of the LT's, take a flyer on one of the DE's since they now fit in to one of the BPA slots, or there will also be plenty of RB talent to choose from. While many of you haven't expressed this opinion(I know some have), I believe not having a home run/change of pace back really hinders the Packers rushing attack.

The only DE I would want to see drafted at pick #9 is Michael Johnson. He's only had one starting season but was very productive and has the frame and physical attributes to be a monster in the NFL. Brown, Orakapo, and all the other midget DE's are big gambles with such a high draft pick.

Good points.

I still trust TT more than Mel Kiper. If he trades down it will be to get the two guys he wanted instead of one he didn't want.

[Ballboy]

Yup, solid points. I still would like 3 out of our top 4 picks to be on D, the 4th being a OL

[Partial]

HAHAHAHA seriously? You're claiming that the Badger game for Brown was MORE impressive than all of Orakpo's career.

Dude, you are laughable. He was manhandled. They ran right at him because he is a L-I-A-B-I-L-I-T-Y. They ran the screen pass right at him because he doesn't have any instincts and was trying to earn a paycheck instead of playing within the system and would pin his ears back and burst at the passer play after play.

So let me get this straight: They gameplanned to run right at him, blocking him with a TE. He was beaten.

When they did drop back to pass, they blocked him with a TE. He was beaten.

When they wanted to run a screen, they passed right where he should be played, knowing he was playing for a paycheck not to win the game. He was beaten.

He was 0-3 in the responsibilities for a DE. How is that a good thing? He was the 2nd or 3rd best DE on the field. Shaughnessy out classed him by a mile.

He was manhandled by a TE. A college tight end for crying out loud.

The one sack was a result of Sherer being the worst quarterback in college football. Dude is beyond awful. Eventually when you're holding the ball for 5 seconds the rushers are going to get to you.

Your defense for a pitiful performance was laughable. What you call making a game plan to neutralize him, I, as well as anyone else with a keen eye for football, call attacking an incomplete player.

2nd day pick at best.

[TennesseePackerBacker]

Partial you had a lot of good points until you're very last line, you should just go back and delete that. Everette Brown will be a first round draft choice, and at the very least a mid 2nd, I just hope not with the Packers.

[Partial]

Partial you had a lot of good points until you're very last line, you should just go back and delete that. Everette Brown will be a first round draft choice, and at the very least a mid 2nd, I just hope not with the Packers.

He'll be a top 15 pick. I just don't want anything to do with him on the Packers first day. I'd take him for his burst on the second day in a heart beat.

[TennesseePackerBacker]

Partial you had a lot of good points until you're very last line, you should just go back and delete that. Everette Brown will be a first round draft choice, and at the very least a mid 2nd, I just hope not with the Packers.

He'll be a top 15 pick. I just don't want anything to do with him on the Packers first day. I'd take him for his burst on the second day in a heart beat.

Agreed, on another note, Raji looks like a real monster against a decent Vandy O-line. Pick #9 in the second round would be a steal for him. He really collapses the pocket and applies a lot of pressure to the interior, something the Packer's sorely miss without Corey Williams. I believe our lack of an inside pass-rush is just a big of a need as our lack of DE pass rush.

[Fred's Slacks]

He "out quicked" a WISCONSIN Badger 350 pound Offensive Lineman? Shocking.

Well, I will again preface this by saying I don't claim to be a DL expert but what I was saying was based on more than the Badger game. I watched some highlights and was more impressed by his burst than Orakpo's. I won't say that I'll be mad if they don't get him, but from what I've seen I think he looks like he could be a solid pro if he has the right attitude.

[pack4to84]

HAHAHAHA seriously? You're claiming that the Badger game for Brown was MORE impressive than all of Orakpo's career.

Dude, you are laughable. He was manhandled. They ran right at him because he is a L-I-A-B-I-L-I-T-Y. They ran the screen pass right at him because he doesn't have any instincts and was trying to earn a paycheck instead of playing within the system and would pin his ears back and burst at the passer play after play.

So let me get this straight: They gameplanned to run right at him, blocking him with a TE. He was beaten.

When they did drop back to pass, they blocked him with a TE. He was beaten.

When they wanted to run a screen, they passed right where he should be played, knowing he was playing for a paycheck not to win the game. He was beaten.

He was 0-3 in the responsibilities for a DE. How is that a good thing? He was the 2nd or 3rd best DE on the field. Shaughnessy out classed him by a mile.

He was manhandled by a TE. A college tight end for crying out loud.

The one sack was a result of Sherer being the worst quarterback in college football. Dude is beyond awful. Eventually when you're holding the ball for 5 seconds the rushers are going to get to you.

Your defense for a pitiful performance was laughable. What you call making a game plan to neutralize him, I, as well as anyone else with a keen eye for football, call attacking an incomplete player.

2nd day pick at best.

I agree with Partial for once. If a TE can block you one on one most of the game you are J.Reynolds all over again. He just got over matched in the NFL.

[pack4to84]

Jamal Reynolds scouting report
6'3 267

Positives: Superior playing speed and quickness. Comes off the ball like a shot and can really explode up the field. Tremendous pass rusher off the edge, where he often beats left tackles cleanly with just pure speed. Is very athletic and has catlike quickness, exceptional balance and coordination and good change of direction. Plays hard and competes well. Is like a shark who smells blood when he thinks he can get a sack.

Negatives: Lacks size and bulk strength. Will have problems holding the point of attack on the next level. Has trouble shedding if the blocker gets his hands on him quickly. May be more of a pass-rush specialist than an every-down player, unless he becomes a 3-4 outside rush ’backer. But not many clubs use the 3-4 anymore.

Summary: One of the best, if not the best, pure pass rushers in the draft, but he is more one-dimensional than teams would like.

[pack4to84]

another player dropping because of his performance in bowl game Matt Stafford, Georgia at the half he is 3-11 ouch. He has a big arm but inaccurate. Reminds me of Heath Shuler.

[Lurker64]

another player dropping because of his performance in bowl game Matt Stafford, Georgia at the half he is 3-11 ouch. He has a big arm but inaccurate. Reminds me of Heath Shuler.

Isn't he a junior? Presumably, as his stock drops, he's less and less likely to declare.