No TV How did Sitton do?

[AV David]

How did Josh Sitton play on Sunday? Barbre?

[cpk1994]

Re: No TV How did Sitton do?

How did Josh Sitton play on Sunday? Barbre?

Well, Sitton had a presonal foul for rougness.

[Noodle]

I know Sitton had a holding penalty that killed a drive, but the line as a whole did pretty well, even though they got shuffled like crazy.

Almost 500 yards of total offense kind of speaks for itself, though I don't know what kind of challenge the Lion front 7 present.

Anyway, they started out Cliffy Spitz Wells Sitton Colledge.

Wells rolled his ankle, so then the line became Cliffy Barbre Spitz Sitton Colledge.

Then Barbre rolled his ankle (friggin guys need to wear old school Riddel high tops or something), so it became Cliffy Colledge Spitz Sitton Moll.

[Brohm]

I am surprised they are even functinal given how much they shift around on a regular basis. Makes you wonder how good this unit could be with any consistancy....

[KYPack]

I know Sitton had a holding penalty that killed a drive, but the line as a whole did pretty well, even though they got shuffled like crazy.

Almost 500 yards of total offense kind of speaks for itself, though I don't know what kind of challenge the Lion front 7 present.

Anyway, they started out Cliffy Spitz Wells Sitton Colledge.

Wells rolled his ankle, so then the line became Cliffy Barbre Spitz Sitton Colledge.

Then Barbre rolled his ankle (friggin guys need to wear old school Riddel high tops or something), so it became Cliffy Colledge Spitz Sitton Moll.

Barbre doesn't play much, then gets hurt in a rare shot.

he needs to step it up to stay on the roster.

Another injury, & they would have put Wells back in.

then...Campen said they would have used a DLineman on the OLine.

Wonder who it would have been?

[Noodle]

Barbre doesn't play much, then gets hurt in a rare shot.

he needs to step it up to stay on the roster.

Another injury, & they would have put Wells back in.

then...Campen said they would have used a DLineman on the OLine.

Wonder who it would have been?

Yeah, I think Barbre is just one of those guys who is snake bit here. Time to move on. Maybe he catches fire with somone else, but I'm about done with him.

As to which DL could play OL, I'd initially thought of Kampman as he's the senior in the group, but he doesn't have the gut. So I'd go with Pickett -- smart and fat, the prototypical NFL OL.

[Patler]

Yeah, I think Barbre is just one of those guys who is snake bit here. Time to move on. Maybe he catches fire with somone else, but I'm about done with him.

Way too soon to give up on Barbre. This was only his second year. Last year went about as they expected for him, maybe even a bit better than they hoped. He did not develop as much this year as they hoped, but they figured he would be a little slow developing anyway because of his background. Next year he needs to step up, but I'm not overly concerned with this season.

Moll is the guy who has to improve dramatically, or be replaced.

[sharpe1027]

Way too soon to give up on Barbre. This was only his second year. Last year went about as they expected for him, maybe even a bit better than they hoped. He did not develop as much this year as they hoped, but they figured he would be a little slow developing anyway because of his background. Next year he needs to step up, but I'm not overly concerned with this season.

Moll is the guy who has to improve dramatically, or be replaced.

I tend to agree. I can't see Moll sticking around. Given that he was expected to be a project, I think Barbre still has a shot at becoming as starter next year.

For all the crap that Colledge gets, the guy's ability to play every position (both left and right sides) except for center was huge this year. Even if he is not a pro-bowl caliber starter, the guy is very useful to have on your team.

[Patler]

For all the crap that Colledge gets, the guy's ability to play every position (both left and right sides) except for center was huge this year. Even if he is not a pro-bowl caliber starter, the guy is very useful to have on your team.

Colledge drives me a little crazy. Had Tauscher been playing, I'm not sure the Wynn run would have gone for a TD. You can watch the replay on nfl.com. Colledge blocked three guys. He got a good shove on one about 5 yards downfield, kept his feet not even losing stride, then threw a cut block 10-15 yards downfield that took out 2 Lions. He was still ahead of Wynn at the time. I'm not sure Tauscher would have been fast enough to be there 15 yards downfield to make that block. With plays like that it is easy to see why they have given Colledge all the opportunities they have.

On they other hand, every game he seems to get beaten cleanly at least once, hardly getting a glove on a pass rusher. He just needs to eliminate the one, two or three absolutely horrible plays he seems to have each week. Too often they have come at the most inopportune times.

[AV David]

"Well, Sitton had a presonal foul for rougness."



I am not sure that's a bad thing.

[Guiness]

Colledge drives me a little crazy. Had Tauscher been playing, I'm not sure the Wynn run would have gone for a TD. You can watch the replay on nfl.com. Colledge blocked three guys. He got a good shove on one about 5 yards downfield, kept his feet not even losing stride, then threw a cut block 10-15 yards downfield that took out 2 Lions. He was still ahead of Wynn at the time. I'm not sure Tauscher would have been fast enough to be there 15 yards downfield to make that block. With plays like that it is easy to see why they have given Colledge all the opportunities they have.

On they other hand, every game he seems to get beaten cleanly at least once, hardly getting a glove on a pass rusher. He just needs to eliminate the one, two or three absolutely horrible plays he seems to have each week. Too often they have come at the most inopportune times.

Any chance of someone finding a clip of that?

He has displayed some incredible athleticism, as well as some terrible breakdowns. And the great plays he's made appear to me to be based on talent and skill. I mention this because I can't forget a play Moll made (while at RT) that sprung Grant for a long run. Even when I looked at it the first time, I thought he was more lucky than good - an LB ran into the back of a DL more than anything else.

But where do the breakdowns come from? Is he not assignment sure? Does he not pick up the blitz well and slide to get a piece of the extra guy?

[rbaloha1]

Sitton played well. Assignment sure and finishes blocks well. Plays with an attitude.

Barbre is very athletic. Reaches the second level quickly and plays with nastiness.

Hopefully both guys start since they appear a good fit for the zbs.

[Patler]

Colledge drives me a little crazy. Had Tauscher been playing, I'm not sure the Wynn run would have gone for a TD. You can watch the replay on nfl.com. Colledge blocked three guys. He got a good shove on one about 5 yards downfield, kept his feet not even losing stride, then threw a cut block 10-15 yards downfield that took out 2 Lions. He was still ahead of Wynn at the time. I'm not sure Tauscher would have been fast enough to be there 15 yards downfield to make that block. With plays like that it is easy to see why they have given Colledge all the opportunities they have.

Any chance of someone finding a clip of that?

As I said, its on nfl.com. Wynn's player page, video highlights:

http://www.nfl.com/players/deshawnwynn/profile?id=WYN129025

That clip is a little hard to see. To watch Colledge, use the pause button and advance it "step by step" and watch the right tackle. Credit also has to go to Jordy Nelson, who occupied the DE and allowed Colledge to move up field immediately. Nelson has had a number of those types of plays. Tough kid.

[cpk1994]

"Well, Sitton had a presonal foul for rougness."



I am not sure that's a bad thing.

Well it was when they were trying to burn clock at the end. Fortunate it was at the end of a play and it went for a first down.

[Guiness]

Colledge drives me a little crazy. Had Tauscher been playing, I'm not sure the Wynn run would have gone for a TD. You can watch the replay on nfl.com. Colledge blocked three guys. He got a good shove on one about 5 yards downfield, kept his feet not even losing stride, then threw a cut block 10-15 yards downfield that took out 2 Lions. He was still ahead of Wynn at the time. I'm not sure Tauscher would have been fast enough to be there 15 yards downfield to make that block. With plays like that it is easy to see why they have given Colledge all the opportunities they have.

Any chance of someone finding a clip of that?

As I said, its on nfl.com. Wynn's player page, video highlights:

http://www.nfl.com/players/deshawnwynn/profile?id=WYN129025

That clip is a little hard to see. To watch Colledge, use the pause button and advance it "step by step" and watch the right tackle. Credit also has to go to Jordy Nelson, who occupied the DE and allowed Colledge to move up field immediately. Nelson has had a number of those types of plays. Tough kid.

Thanks - good clip.

Is that Nelson lined up just inside Driver, i.e. second from the end of the line?

DD took a good shot at the end of that run when he turned to look at Wynn, and got shoved in the back by a Lions player.