FINAL STATISTICAL COMPARISON

[sharpe1027]

IMHO, Rodgers was not the main problem with the Packers, but he did have areas that he could improve.

Not only was he not "the main problem", I don't see how anybody could claim a QB who threw for > 4000 yards, had 28 TD passes (13 INTS), 4 rushing TDs (3 fumbles lost), and finished with a 93.8 passer rating is "a problem" at all.

Yes, Rodgers can get better and he will, almost certainly, but 30 TDs and 4000 passing yards is good for any QB, whether you're a first year starter or a 10-year veteran. If you're expecting more than that, you really have unrealistic expectations for quarterbacking.

Rodgers had a good year, the team did not.

To be fair, you can't have it both ways. His "individual" statistics are not individual in any true sense of the word. They are a direct result of the players and system around him.

Of course, there is no way that he can put up those type of numbers without consistently making the correct reads and throws. So, his individual numbers are more directly related to his performance than the teams record.

Still, the team had problems, and Rodgers is part of the team. I am not about to give him a pass simply because he had good stats. The entire team deserves a swift kick in the ass.

[channtheman]

Final statistical comparison that matters:

Jets: 4-12 in 2007, 9-7 in 2008.
Packers: 13-3 in 2007, 6-10 in 2008.

Happy New Year.

This argument is bullshit and it pisses me off every time I see or hear it.

2004 Jets: 10-6
2005 Jets: 4-12
2006 Jets: 10-6
2007 Jets: 4-12

As you can see the Jets have flip flopped their record over the past few seasons and their turn around this year should come of no surprise. In fact, I think the Jets were losing games because of Brett, especially near the end. How you can still argue this is beyond me.

[cheesner]

It takes receivers to catch the passes. It takes an OL to pass block. It takes a running game to keep the defenses honest. It takes a defense to keep the score low so your offense doesn't have to do too much. It takes good special teams so you have better field position. It takes . . . .

There are so many variables, you can argue to you are blue in the fingers and you will never sway anyone from the position they currently have. There are reasons on both sides of the fence to draw conclusions one way or the other. It is just too complex of an issue to draw any definite comparisons.

In my opinion, AR played better overall than BF. If BF was our QB this season, we would have likely won an extra game or two based on his leadership. I would rather have the youngster in a wasted season gaining valuable experience than to have BF at the helm. BF did what he has for the last 1/2 of his career. Played great most of the season, and then played very poorly towards the end of the season. I think the game just wears on him and he is nearly disinterested by the end of the season.

[oregonpackfan]

My New Year's resolution is to think forward and postive.
Comparing and breaking down stats don't serve a constructive purpose. Favre's gone. Rodger's will be healthy, still young and fit next year.
I made my last post regarding Brett Favre in the BF thread.

I'm already looking at next season.
So.........we ready to talk about which month is best for the PR game?
GO PACK GO!!!

Amen!

[Sparkey]

I did not post the statistical comparison to rip on a player or do the "see I told you so" routine. I posted them because there were many posters on this board that wanted to wait until the end of the year to see of TT & MM made the right move for the future of the franchise.

Based on how Rodgers played and his age and the potential that he improves as he gains experience, I believe that the right decision was made for the future of the Green Bay Packers.

Add in the fact that many did not think Rodgers could even make it through three games, much less a full season, and there is reason to be optimistic about the Packers. It is said, finding a top level qb is the hardest thing to do in the NFL. See (Dolphins, 49ers, Bears, Raiders) for examples of teams struggling to do what Green Bay has done.

Packer fan since 1973! Go Pack Go!