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  • #16
    Originally posted by retailguy
    Originally posted by TennesseePackerBacker
    The only thing that sucks about changing coordinators is changing schemes. It could potentially set the defense back just that much longer. It would be fun however to see Nolan in the suit coaching up the D.
    You wouldn't see the suit under the parka.

    You just gotta check out the Reebok wingtips...

    3 to 1 odds from this fan, it's Winston Moss time!.
    I'd say you're right on the money. However, the gambler in me would take those odds.
    "I firmly believe that any man's finest hour, the greatest fulfillment of all that he holds dear, is that moment when he has worked his heart out in a good cause and lies exhausted on the field of battle - victorious." - Vince Lombardi

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    • #17
      Originally posted by retailguy
      Originally posted by TennesseePackerBacker
      The only thing that sucks about changing coordinators is changing schemes. It could potentially set the defense back just that much longer. It would be fun however to see Nolan in the suit coaching up the D.
      You wouldn't see the suit under the parka.

      You just gotta check out the Reebok wingtips...

      3 to 1 odds from this fan, it's Winston Moss time!.

      betting on continuity over quality ?
      TERD Buckley over Troy Vincent, Robert Ferguson over Chris Chambers, Kevn King instead of TJ Watt, and now, RICH GANNON, over JIMMY JIMMY JIMMY LEONARD. Thank you FLOWER

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      • #18
        Originally posted by Bretsky
        Originally posted by retailguy
        Originally posted by TennesseePackerBacker
        The only thing that sucks about changing coordinators is changing schemes. It could potentially set the defense back just that much longer. It would be fun however to see Nolan in the suit coaching up the D.
        You wouldn't see the suit under the parka.

        You just gotta check out the Reebok wingtips...

        3 to 1 odds from this fan, it's Winston Moss time!.

        betting on continuity over quality ?

        YOU BETCHA! :P

        (I'd love to be wrong.... But I don't think I'm gonna be.) I don't see them abandoning this defense yet, and all the personnel to this point have been drafted with it in mind. They'll give it one more year to make it work.

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        • #19
          To me, Continuity is a great word to throw around when you have a history of success to seek continuity for

          But when you are following something that has not worked then it should be the least of your worries
          TERD Buckley over Troy Vincent, Robert Ferguson over Chris Chambers, Kevn King instead of TJ Watt, and now, RICH GANNON, over JIMMY JIMMY JIMMY LEONARD. Thank you FLOWER

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          • #20
            Re: More coaches to be fired?

            Originally posted by red
            defensive ends coach Carl Hairston.
            This is shocking - the packers have a defensive ends coach!?


            Of all the people to get fired. That poor shmuck had less talent to work with at that position than anywhere else on the whole team. How would YOU like to coach-up Jeremy Thompson, Jason Hunter and Mike Montgomery?

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            • #21
              Re: More coaches to be fired?

              Originally posted by Harlan Huckleby
              Originally posted by red
              defensive ends coach Carl Hairston.
              This is shocking - the packers have a defensive ends coach!?


              Of all the people to get fired. That poor shmuck had less talent to work with at that position than anywhere else on the whole team. How would YOU like to coach-up Jeremy Thompson, Jason Hunter and Mike Montgomery?
              Apparently MM is of the opinion Hairston should have been able to make more out of Thompson, Hunter and Montgomery than he has. Maybe they look mediocre because of poor coaching?

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              • #22
                Montgomery actually made some progress throughout the season. But he is still slow off the ball.

                I don't think any of those three guys would make the roster on most NFL teams.

                I am no scout, but I don't think any of those three have any talent. Thompson looks the part, maybe he will come around.

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                • #23
                  Campen may have been promoted too fast. His coaching resume included something like 9 years as a high school coach before coming to the Packers in 2004. He spent one year as a quasi-assistant-to-the-assistant, which was sort of a made up position to give him a chance to get started. He was promoted to a full time assistant line coach for two years, and then took over as the line coach just three season after leaving his high school job.

                  They often talk about the intricacies of teaching the zone scheme MM wants. When he came MM mentioned the need to have coaches experienced in it. Campen had one year experience with it when he was asked to take over the line upon Philbin's promotion.

                  I tend to think the line has talent enough to perform better than it has.

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                  • #24
                    I always wondered why Philben did not retain OL duties, it's not like he calls plays or anything....
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                    • #25
                      Wait, did these guys get let go?

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                      • #26
                        Just seeing this , this morning. Well it's all over the internet now so MM's gotta pull the trigger or not---soon.
                        Lombardi told Starr to "Run it, and let's get the hell out of here!" - 'Ice Bowl' December 31, 1967

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                        • #27
                          The Fan poll at jsonline has 88% of fans wanting Sanders to be fired.

                          I submit this as exhibit A of why Sanders should and will be retained.

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                          • #28
                            The comments I heard from MM on local TV last night and this morning seemed to be prepping the public for no more coaching changes short of Stock's "retirement".

                            (I wish they'd roll a date and time over these clips--I don't know if the clip was six hours old or three days old )


                            Injuries was MM's one word explanation. He apologized for not overcoming the defensive injuries better, but it was plain that he believed injuries were the primary cause of the drop in defensive play. I think he's done firing, which would mean his own head goes on the block already next year--and, perhaps, TT with him.
                            [QUOTE=George Cumby] ...every draft (Ted) would pick a solid, dependable, smart, athletically limited linebacker...the guy who isn't doing drugs, going to strip bars, knocking around his girlfriend or making any plays of game changing significance.

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                            • #29
                              Originally posted by Harlan Huckleby
                              The Fan poll at jsonline has 88% of fans wanting Sanders to be fired.

                              I submit this as exhibit A of why Sanders should and will be retained.


                              Because the smart Packer fans are now Jets fans and want him retained


                              J/K..............J/K.................
                              TERD Buckley over Troy Vincent, Robert Ferguson over Chris Chambers, Kevn King instead of TJ Watt, and now, RICH GANNON, over JIMMY JIMMY JIMMY LEONARD. Thank you FLOWER

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                              • #30
                                Originally posted by Partial
                                Wait, did these guys get let go?
                                Nope. On the other hand, nothing would ensure Al Harris' continued employment by the Packers like keeping the Defensive Staff together would.

                                At this point, I would settle for a new assistant with a background in multiple front seven attacks getting a job as LB coach if Moss gets a promotion outside the Packers.

                                If McCarthy keeps Sanders, he will transfer all the heat to himself. His grace period in the fans minds will be up if the defense struggles next year.
                                Bud Adams told me the franchise he admired the most was the Kansas City Chiefs. Then he asked for more hookers and blow.

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