Hindsight

[texaspackerbacker]

It sure would have been nice to have picked up Jimmy Leonhard as a street free agent a couple of years ago. I was advocating that back then.

[Gunakor]

Re: Hindsight

It sure would have been nice to have picked up Jimmy Leonhard as a street free agent a couple of years ago. I was advocating that back then.

Is that the walk on safety the Badgers had a few years ago? I would have been for putting him on the PS - which would have given him an opportunity to play this past season, maybe - but I don't think he'd be good enough to make the 45 man gameday roster if our starters and primary backups are healthy.

[Bretsky]

Me too; I really liked Leonard.

He's that white dude w/o any of the measurables but with ALL of the intangibles. He does all of the little things right and that makes him valuable. Great to see him in the playoffs.

For anybody who watched college basketball he's like Joe Krabbenhoft. I could watch that guy play forever because the true basketball fan realizes he does all the little things perfectly even though he's not as athletically gifted as many others.

[Pacopete4]

Im not sure Leonard was big enough, nor fast enough for the NFL game.. has a ton of heart though, cant take that away from the guy

[Bretsky]

NICK GRIESSEN

He was a trooper for the Badge as well !!!!!!!!!!!

Congrads to Griessen and Leonard

[channtheman]

Im not sure Leonard was big enough, nor fast enough for the NFL game.. has a ton of heart though, cant take that away from the guy

This is what they all say. "He's too small, he's not fast enough!" Jim Leonhard is like Doug Flutie. All he does is play football and get the job done but he ALWAYS has the naysayers who say he can't do it. It's unfair to guys like that because on the other side you have people like Deshawn Wynn who have all the talent in the world but don't care to use it, yet they get the shot in the NFL because they have potential.

[sheepshead]

Often it's a case where someone likes the way you play and they get around to giving you a shot.

Look at that Favre guy for instance!

[Pacopete4]

Often it's a case where someone likes the way you play and they get around to giving you a shot.

Look at that Favre guy for instance!

Comparing the talent of Favre to a guy like Jim Leonard... yikes

[sheepshead]

Often it's a case where someone likes the way you play and they get around to giving you a shot.

Look at that Favre guy for instance!

Comparing the talent of Favre to a guy like Jim Leonard... yikes

no, not exactly. maybe you need a history book for comparison. dope.

[Gunakor]

Often it's a case where someone likes the way you play and they get around to giving you a shot.

Look at that Favre guy for instance!

Comparing the talent of Favre to a guy like Jim Leonard... yikes

Favre was a relative unknown when Wolf made the trade to bring him in. He was extremely raw at that time. It wasn't until Holmgren got his hands on Favre that his full talent and potential was realized.

Sheeps has a point. Perhaps Leonard has the same talent, but needs to be paired with the right coach to realize it. You never know.

[The Leaper]

Perhaps Leonard has the same talent, but needs to be paired with the right coach to realize it. You never know.

I think it is very safe to say that Leonard DOES NOT POSSESS the same talent as Brett Favre.

Very, very safe.

[Pacopete4]

Often it's a case where someone likes the way you play and they get around to giving you a shot.

Look at that Favre guy for instance!

Comparing the talent of Favre to a guy like Jim Leonard... yikes

Favre was a relative unknown when Wolf made the trade to bring him in. He was extremely raw at that time. It wasn't until Holmgren got his hands on Favre that his full talent and potential was realized.

Sheeps has a point. Perhaps Leonard has the same talent, but needs to be paired with the right coach to realize it. You never know.

seriously.. come on

[The Leaper]

Favre was a relative unknown when Wolf made the trade to bring him in.

Not at all true. Favre was VERY known within NFL circles, although probably not among fan circles. Favre would've been a top 10 pick had he not had the accident that dinged him up and made him miss time in college.

In fact, had Favre come out in TODAY'S NFL, he'd probably still have been a top 15-20 pick even with the accident because of the "YouTube" factor that hypes certain individuals. The guy is a walking highlight reel. 20 years ago, the draft process was far different in some respects.

[Fosco33]

Leonhard was a walk-on to UW. Had the pleasure of watching him in person while at UW. He finally got a scholarship his senior year - glad he's had some good PT in the NFL. Just a true blue collar workhorse.

Good story about Greisen, too. His wife had a baby last night (flew up there, had the baby girl and flew back the next morning). Nick and I had mutual friends and we actually hung out a number of times. He and Dave Braun used to cheat off me in Micro Econ. Nick was also a spitting image of one of my roommates - people were always mixing the two up (which was really funny when all of us were in the same class). He's a nice dude.

[texaspackerbacker]

Have you guys been watching today's game? That's why I brought this up now.

Leonhard is an integral part of arguably the best defense in the NFL--the Ravens. He was and is a cover safety with a nose for the ball and being in the right place on running plays. He also was and is an excellent punt returner. And he still is only 5'8"--probably on tiptoes.