An admission of incompetance by MM.

[Lurker64]

I think a bad coaching hire is kind of like a bad draft pick. You're better off realizing that you made a bad pick, and cutting ties before too much damage is done than by keeping a guy around to do more damage while you hope he makes it right.

If it turns out that the defensive staff is actually responsible for failings in the eyes of McCarthy and he thinks the problem is systemic, it's smarter to get rid of these guys sooner rather than later.

Though, to be honest, I don't really know if Sanders and crew were really the problem, or if this is just CYA behavior by McCarthy.

[The Leaper]

McCarthy doesn't impress me as being a really smart guy. He's a hard worker who understands football, but I'm not sure he will ever become a premier head coach in the NFL. He's probably better than Sherman as a head coach...but that isn't saying much.

I was very critical of MM's coaching staff from day one. I wasn't a fan of Sanders...and I despised the Kurt the Worthless Turd. The entire Ryan debacle convinced me that Stock was a buffoon as well.

Ultimately, who you surround yourself with goes a long way to building success that can last...not ride a roller coaster of 13-3, 6-10, 11-5, 7-9...which is where it seems we are heading at best. This is because I have little confidence that McCarthy understands just what it takes to administrate and delegate as a head coach.

[HarveyWallbangers]

Ultimately, who you surround yourself with goes a long way to building success that can last...not ride a roller coaster of 13-3, 6-10, 11-5, 7-9...which is where it seems we are heading at best. This is because I have little confidence that McCarthy understands just what it takes to administrate and delegate as a head coach.

Is this the reason you announced your opposition to Nolan when it now looks like he'll be hired?

[Bretsky]

Re: An admission of incompetance by MM.

Sorry, but firing nearly half of his coaching is an admission of utter incompetence three years ago when he put the staff together.

I complained long and hard about his staff, their relatively poor success history, and the fact that most were in "elevated" positions above what they had ever performed at before. I hope MM has learned from this and does a better job of assembling his staff in his second go-around. It's his last chance in GB. He will not be given another opportunity to correct utter failure.

He needs to bring in some coaches with proven track records.

IMO you are absolutely spot on with all of this

I hope MM learns from this and brings in coaches with track records as well

[RashanGary]

Re: An admission of incompetance by MM.

IMO you are absolutely spot on with all of this

I hope MM learns from this and brings in coaches with track records as well

I agree. I hope he brings in someone with proven success and lets him have complete control of hte defense. I hope he doesn't bring in a young, yes man so his security isn't threatened.

[Bretsky]

Re: An admission of incompetance by MM.

IMO you are absolutely spot on with all of this

I hope MM learns from this and brings in coaches with track records as well

I agree. I hope he brings in someone with proven success and lets him have complete control of hte defense. I hope he doesn't bring in a young, yes man so his security isn't threatened.

agree; let MM take the offense to the top and somebody proven excel with the defense

[Rastak]

Did MM micromanage the defense under Sanders? Normally an offensive coach, even more so one who calls plays, usually does let the DC have a free hand with the defense.

[Lurker64]

Did MM micromanage the defense under Sanders? Normally an offensive coach, even more so one who calls plays, usually does let the DC have a free hand with the defense.

Various JS writers have commented things to the effect that McCarthy basically has nothing to do with the defense, and that the coordinator has free reign. So I believe that the DC has had a free hand under MM.

[The Leaper]

Is this the reason you announced your opposition to Nolan when it now looks like he'll be hired?

I'm just not a Nolan fan. Look at what SF did after he left...they improved with a very green fill-in coach.

Nolan would not be a great hire IMO...just another example of McCarthy choosing to go with someone he is comfortable with. Neither McCarthy or Thompson seem capable of making a bold move when necessary. They play it safe...which leads to lots of mediocrity IMO.

[Bretsky]

Is this the reason you announced your opposition to Nolan when it now looks like he'll be hired?

I'm just not a Nolan fan. Look at what SF did after he left...they improved with a very green fill-in coach.

Nolan would not be a great hire IMO...just another example of McCarthy choosing to go with someone he is comfortable with. Neither McCarthy or Thompson seem capable of making a bold move when necessary. They play it safe...which leads to lots of mediocrity IMO.

What about his D's with the Giants and Baltimore ? He's been a solid DC when the talent was there

If MM wanted to hire for comfort level he'll hire Winston Moss

[Gunakor]

McCarthy doesn't impress me as being a really smart guy. He's a hard worker who understands football, but I'm not sure he will ever become a premier head coach in the NFL. He's probably better than Sherman as a head coach...but that isn't saying much.

I was very critical of MM's coaching staff from day one. I wasn't a fan of Sanders...and I despised the Kurt the Worthless Turd. The entire Ryan debacle convinced me that Stock was a buffoon as well.

Ultimately, who you surround yourself with goes a long way to building success that can last...not ride a roller coaster of 13-3, 6-10, 11-5, 7-9...which is where it seems we are heading at best. This is because I have little confidence that McCarthy understands just what it takes to administrate and delegate as a head coach.

I despised Kurt too, but in all fairness, he did not deserve to be canned this year. He coached the defensive backs, right? The group that has 2 players starting in the Pro Bowl? The group that led the NFL in interceptions? The VERY BEST defensive backfield as a whole in the entire NFL - all while dealing with injuries to Harris for a month, Bigby for nearly the entire season, Rouse for a while, and Woodson playing on a broken toe for the whole year - THAT defensive backfield was coached by... Kurt Shottenheimer. The guy who turned Nick Collins from a player we all wished would be cut in August into the starting FS in the Pro Bowl next month. I can't say I'm too pleased with the decision to let him go. Not after the year he and his group had in 2008 anyway.

Everyone else? Good riddance.

[Packerarcher]

The admission of incompetence should be coming from TT.

[SnakeLH2006]

By all accounts when a head coach in the NFL faces heat, either he sticks by his staff and usually gets shitcanned (as no change after a shitty year usually means similar results).

Often when facing heat (and usually a year away from potential firing) a head coach will make dramatic changes on his staff...sometimes it works, sometimes it doesn't.

What is interesting here, is that MM brought in all his old homeys from his previous crews he's worked on and it seems like he elevated them to positions not based on merit, as it seemed like they were his buddies and he hoped chemistry would be the answer.

Obviously, not as he's dropped the axe on all his homeboys as of late, and I just hope he's learned he needs to bring in talented NFL experienced dudes that have won (or performed well) in the past.

Fingers crossed for his and our sakes!

[Gunakor]

The admission of incompetence should be coming from TT.

I argued this in another thread.

The only decision TT could have apologized for making here was hiring MM. All of the coaches that were canned were hired by MM, not TT. I'm not sold on MM being the right guy yet, but I'm not convinced he isn't either. So I wouldn't yet apologize for that hire either if I were in TT's shoes. What other incompetence are you suggesting?

[cpk1994]

The admission of incompetence should be coming from TT.

I argued this in another thread.

The only decision TT could have apologized for making here was hiring MM. All of the coaches that were canned were hired by MM, not TT. I'm not sold on MM being the right guy yet, but I'm not convinced he isn't either. So I wouldn't yet apologize for that hire either if I were in TT's shoes. What other incompetence are you suggesting?

He is suggesting TT apologize for trading Favre away".