If we switch to 3-4

[PaCkFan_n_MD]

I wish Barnett didn't get hurt this year. If he had a year like 07 he could get you a second round pick. I think we could make Kampman work, but I don't like Barnett in the 3-4.

Assuming Kampman can play DE in the 3-4 and Hawk can play inside:

We need on 1 Ilb, 2 OLBs and a bid strong NT. Four players is really isn't that much.

[Bossman641]

I see many people are projecting Hunter to line up as an OLB in this scheme and maybe be a surprise. Can someone explain this to me? I have seen nothing that makes me think he'll be a good rush OLB. He's fast, but that's it. I don't get it. If you move a turd from DE to OLB, he is still a turd.

[pack4to84]

I wish Barnett didn't get hurt this year. If he had a year like 07 he could get you a second round pick. I think we could make Kampman work, but I don't like Barnett in the 3-4.

Assuming Kampman can play DE in the 3-4 and Hawk can play inside:

We need on 1 Ilb, 2 OLBs and a bid strong NT. Four players is really isn't that much.

MM said Kampman would play OLB

[HarveyWallbangers]

I see many people are projecting Hunter to line up as an OLB in this scheme and maybe be a surprise. Can someone explain this to me? I have seen nothing that makes me think he'll be a good rush OLB. He's fast, but that's it. I don't get it. If you move a turd from DE to OLB, he is still a turd.

Dude is 6'4" 271 and ran a 4.5 coming out. That's what is intriguing. Most OLBs in the 3-4 wouldn't look nearly as good if you put them at DE in a 4-3 and allowed OTs to get their hands on them.

[packers11]

Hawk and Barnett would be in middle...

Jenkins Pickett Jolly (line)

OLB Would be Kampy and Poppinga/Chillar...

(projected lineup with current roster)...

I could see it going down like this... But i'm sure FA/draft will change 1-2 spots...

[pack4to84]

I see many people are projecting Hunter to line up as an OLB in this scheme and maybe be a surprise. Can someone explain this to me? I have seen nothing that makes me think he'll be a good rush OLB. He's fast, but that's it. I don't get it. If you move a turd from DE to OLB, he is still a turd.

Dude is 6'4" 271 and ran a 4.5 coming out. That's what is intriguing. Most OLBs in the 3-4 wouldn't look nearly as good if you put them at DE in a 4-3 and allowed OTs to get their hands on them.

as a OLB Hunter wouldn't be aim for contact. He would be aim to get up the field. It would be like a DE not worrying about the run every play. It makes it hard to run outside vs 3-4.

[HarveyWallbangers]

Hawk and Barnett would be in middle...

Jenkins Pickett Jolly (line)

OLB Would be Kampy and Poppinga/Chillar...

(projected lineup with current roster)...

I could see it going down like this... But i'm sure FA/draft will change 1-2 spots...

Mostly agree. I think Jenkins, Pickett, and Hawk would be ideal fits. I've come around to the idea of Kampman as a rush OLB. Jolly would need to step up or get replaced. Barnett isn't an ideal fit, but I'm not ready to write him off. Maybe Poppinga goes inside. Maybe Bishop is the answer. Not sure what to make of Poppinga or Chillar as the other rush OLB. I think Hunter and Thompson would have legit chances to compete for that spot.

[Gunakor]

Hawk and Barnett would be in middle...

Jenkins Pickett Jolly (line)

OLB Would be Kampy and Poppinga/Chillar...

(projected lineup with current roster)...

I could see it going down like this... But i'm sure FA/draft will change 1-2 spots...

Mostly agree. I think Jenkins, Pickett, and Hawk would be ideal fits. I've come around to the idea of Kampman as a rush OLB. Jolly would need to step up or get replaced. Barnett isn't an ideal fit, but I'm not ready to write him off. Maybe Poppinga goes inside. Maybe Bishop is the answer. Not sure what to make of Poppinga or Chillar as the other rush OLB. I think Hunter and Thompson would have legit chances to compete for that spot.

Chillar is currently the best blitzer in our LB corps. I'm fairly certain that he'll be lining up at the other OLB spot next season, barring a trade or FA pickup or studly draft pick.

[HarveyWallbangers]

Chillar is currently the best blitzer in our LB corps. I'm fairly certain that he'll be lining up at the other OLB spot next season, barring a trade or FA pickup or studly draft pick.

1) That isn't saying much.
2) I'm not sure if he'd be better than Poppinga as a 3-4 pass rush OLB.
3) I'm not sure if he'd be better than Hunter or Thompson as a 3-4 pass rush OLB.
4) I'm not sure that the Packers won't sign or draft a guy who is better.

It will be an interesting battle for the LB spots.

[red]

poppinga was a DE in college, we were the ones that turned him into a so-so lber

that could be a real nice move for him

i'm actually very excited about this team for the first time in quite awhile. because of this move to 3-4

[Gunakor]

Chillar is currently the best blitzer in our LB corps. I'm fairly certain that he'll be lining up at the other OLB spot next season, barring a trade or FA pickup or studly draft pick.

1) That isn't saying much.
2) I'm not sure if he'd be better than Poppinga as a 3-4 pass rush OLB.
3) I'm not sure if he'd be better than Hunter or Thompson as a 3-4 pass rush OLB.
4) I'm not sure that the Packers won't sign or draft a guy who is better.

It will be an interesting battle for the LB spots.

Both OLB's aren't going to be rushing the passer on every snap. Sometimes the pressure will come from the left. Sometimes the right. Sometimes one of the ILB's will come, while both OLB's drop back. So the question is, will Hunter or Thompson be better overall than Chillar? My guess is no. They'd be better pass rushers, but a liability when they aren't on the blitz. And opposing OC's will key on this, and account for where the pressure is coming from - negating the confusion the 3-4 is designed to create. May as well stick with the 4-3 if we are going to tell offenses where the pressure is coming from. Chillar can do both effectively, and that's why the job will be his.

[rbaloha1]

I wish Barnett didn't get hurt this year. If he had a year like 07 he could get you a second round pick. I think we could make Kampman work, but I don't like Barnett in the 3-4.

Assuming Kampman can play DE in the 3-4 and Hawk can play inside:

We need on 1 Ilb, 2 OLBs and a bid strong NT. Four players is really isn't that much.

MM said Kampman would play OLB

This concerns me. Kampman is probably have to loose weight. Agreed Kampy's athleticism is underrated. Very explosive as a pass rusher.

Kampy appears stiff when moving sideways. 40 times are not the best indicator of linebacker play. IMO agility is more important.

IMO Kampy should bulk up and play DE. Ryan Pickett is a great fit as a noseguard.

I shall wait for pre season to access personnel in the new scheme.

Nonetheless a great hire. Kudos to TT.

[pbmax]

Before you start assigning job positions, read this from the PC:

(I don't see Kampman as that type of defensive end in a 3-4. Does he need to get bigger?)
He's an outside rusher. Who's to say we're going to play him at the defensive end position? There's two types of 3-4. You look at the old two-gap 3-4, and you look at the 3-4 that Pittsburgh, Baltimore, San Francisco and Dallas, what they're doing with their personnel. I think this is an excellent defense for Aaron, particularly in the base defense, and we'll also utilize Aaron more in the sub-packages.

We don't know what we don't know about this scheme yet. It doesn't sound like the 3-4 hybrid of Belichick or Saban. Or the 3-4 that Marty ran in Cleveland.

And for the record, I don't think Singletary ran much 3-4 after he took over, did he?

[Lurker64]

It is important to note that there is no "one true 3-4 defense". Really the only thing that characterizes the 3-4 is that there are only three guys with their hands on the ground for the defense. I expect to see a lot of different looks, including a lot of them that basically use the 3-4 alignment but one of the DEs is standing.

There are as many different wrinkles in the 3-4 as there are in the 4-3. It would be foolish to assume that the coaches would choose to run sets and plays that puts the existing talent on the roster in bad positions. They may not be the greatest coaches, but they aren't obviously incompetent.

[Partial]

Just listened to MM's press conference.
He said both Jenkins and Kampman should be excited about the change. Emphasized many times that this should be a very good defense for Kampman, and mentioned that he could line up some in the linebacker spot.

Kampman is the reverse Trevor Pryce. Started out at DT, moved to DE, now possible to LB, soon to safety!

Pryce went from a smaller LB (I think) to a DE to a really fat DT.