Personnel Changes?

[The Shadow]

I have a hunch Al Harris' days may now be numbered.
Wouldn't be at all surprised now to see the Packers attempt to sign 2 defensive line free agents, and draft a corner like Jenkins, if he's avail. at #9.
Jason Taylor, if he's released by the Skins (and over the injuries), might be an intriguing addition - if he'd like to prove he's got something besides dancing skills left.
Something tells me that the Packers will be looking at corners with more than bump and run skills - no matter who the next coordinator is. Woodson can seamlessly fit into another system, but Harris seems a bit too much of a one-trick pony.

[The Leaper]

No to Jason Taylor.

I agree that Harris probably will have to fight to retain his starting spot in 2009...Harris is in the middle of a steady decline.

[Brando19]

I love Al Harris...I hope you guys are wrong.

[MJZiggy]

Remember that Harris is damn good at that trick...

[Gunakor]

I though Harris had a solid year this year. Even being out for a month he still earned an alternate spot on the NFC Pro Bowl roster this year. I could see doubt if his injury was more substantial, but since he was able to come back and play just as effectively as he had before the injury, I don't see MM making any changes there. Barring unforseen problems this offseason I think Harris and Woodson are still the starting corners next year.

[Pack-man]

I guess the decision on Harris will hinge on what kind of defensive scheme the new DC brings in. Most 3-4 defenses use a press type coverage. So he would be good there. If they go to a 4-3 with more man on man coverage I don't see Harris being a good fit there anymore.

No to Jason Taylor. He didn't want to play in GB last year. What makes you think he'd change his mind now?

[packers11]

I don't get why Harris would be gone, we have tones of cap and he was still very solid last year... Worst comes to worst he plays in the nickel spot, I believe he only counts around 5 million to the cap and with the packers already having a huge cap number this shouldn't be a problem...

[wist43]

Regardless of scheme, what makes any of you think that TT will move to fill holes??? That is to say, fill needs.

TT doesn't see needs... he just sees players. If he "needs" a corner, and sees a WR on the board that he has rated higher, even if the difference between the WR and Corner is infintesimal... he's gong to take the WR.

He's going to trade down 12 times, and draft 93 guys... I don't think I'm going out on a limb with this one... he's done it every year.

Needs??? Filling holes??? Nah

Maybe he takes a look at Corners later in the draft, and hopes one of them turns out... that's his approach. Always the highest rated player on his board, regardless of position, and regardless of need.

[bobblehead]

No to Jason Taylor.

I agree that Harris probably will have to fight to retain his starting spot in 2009...Harris is in the middle of a steady decline.

Did you come to this conclusion before or after he contained the best reciever in the NFL this season?

[Gunakor]

Regardless of scheme, what makes any of you think that TT will move to fill holes??? That is to say, fill needs.

TT doesn't see needs... he just sees players. If he "needs" a corner, and sees a WR on the board that he has rated higher, even if the difference between the WR and Corner is infintesimal... he's gong to take the WR.

He's going to trade down 12 times, and draft 93 guys... I don't think I'm going out on a limb with this one... he's done it every year.

Needs??? Filling holes??? Nah

Maybe he takes a look at Corners later in the draft, and hopes one of them turns out... that's his approach. Always the highest rated player on his board, regardless of position, and regardless of need.

And that was true, right up until TT selected cornerback Pat Lee in the second round. And he filled a need at TE when he drafted Jermichael Finley. And he traded UP to get Jeremy Thompson. And drafted 2 QB's, coz, u know, we certainly didn't need a QB.

I guess I can't agree with you that TT doesn't fill needs.

[HarveyWallbangers]

I guess I can't agree with you that TT doesn't fill needs.

I can't either. He drafted a WR in the second round after we lost Javon Walker. When that WR got injured, he drafted another WR in the second round the next year. When we needed an OG after 2005, he drafted Daryn Colledge in the second round.

[wist43]

Regardless of scheme, what makes any of you think that TT will move to fill holes??? That is to say, fill needs.

TT doesn't see needs... he just sees players. If he "needs" a corner, and sees a WR on the board that he has rated higher, even if the difference between the WR and Corner is infintesimal... he's gong to take the WR.

He's going to trade down 12 times, and draft 93 guys... I don't think I'm going out on a limb with this one... he's done it every year.

Needs??? Filling holes??? Nah

Maybe he takes a look at Corners later in the draft, and hopes one of them turns out... that's his approach. Always the highest rated player on his board, regardless of position, and regardless of need.

And that was true, right up until TT selected cornerback Pat Lee in the second round. And he filled a need at TE when he drafted Jermichael Finley. And he traded UP to get Jeremy Thompson. And drafted 2 QB's, coz, u know, we certainly didn't need a QB.

I guess I can't agree with you that TT doesn't fill needs.

He drafted guys at those positions... did he actually fill needs??? Did Lee contribute??? At all??? Sorry, but I want my 2nd rounders on the field and producing almost from day one.

I like Finleys upside, but given the promise that Lee showed the previous year, was TE really a need??? I think you could make the argument either way that Finley was either a need pick, or a PBA... that said, he was a 4th round pick, hardly a stone cold push to fill a need. Regardless, as I said, I like his upside.

I like Thompson too... but again, any impact??? Did it fill a need??? Was DE considered a big "need" last year??? Jenkins was healthy, KGB was still on the roster and being well paid for it, Kampman of course, they seem to have some faith in Montgomery (I do not), and while the DL as a whole over achieved, they did produce good numbers, so I don't think Thompson could be considered a need pick either; and again, throwing a 4th round pick at a position probably doesn't solve your problem anyway, so is he really addressing a need with that pick???

Just another one of his darts that he hopes pans out... and that's the rub. TT's multiple darts approach, as opposed to targetting an impact guy, at a position of need, and making the necessary moves to acquire that guy.

To me, filling a need is making a move to get that guy that you plug in from day one and he performs at a high level. Be it moving up 5 spots in the first round or signing an UFA, TT simply does not go after that guy. He shoots his dice, trades down, and rationalizes that that gives him 3 more chances at finding a guy.

Does that give him the luxury of taking a Jordy Nelson with his first pick in last years draft??? A head scratcher beyond the lack of need... it knocked Jones down the depth chart when he had shown some promise from the previous year. So where is the impact??? Okay player, but did virtually nothing to help them this year, and likely won't have much of an impact next year... it's a crowded position.

Then there's Harrell of course... no need to dwell on that, lol

Yes, he drafts players at positions that we have a need at, but there's a big difference between aggressively moving to solve a problem, and simply spewing some spit balls at the problem and hoping one of them sticks.

I think TT has proven that he will always take his BPA, regardless of position, in the 1st round... need never enters into his thinking with that pick.

[wist43]

I guess I can't agree with you that TT doesn't fill needs.

I can't either. He drafted a WR in the second round after we lost Javon Walker. When that WR got injured, he drafted another WR in the second round the next year. When we needed an OG after 2005, he drafted Daryn Colledge in the second round.

I do agree that he takes players at positions of need... just in his own good time.

Jennings worked out, never liked Colledge... and the Walker mess was mostly of TT's doing to begin with. That Walker went the way of the knob, is neither here nor there... unless he was misbehaving in the locker room, and they saw him as a bad seed; but, that wasn't reported. His discontent became public after TT told him to take a hike on a new contract. To me, Walker is a TT indictment.

[Lurker64]

To me, Walker is a TT indictment.

I don't know how much you can really blame Walker on TT considering that he has played relatively poorly and generally made an ass of himself in every place he's played since here. If he behaves like an ass in Green Bay, and he behaves like an ass in Denver, and he behaves like an ass in Oakland... he might just be an ass.

[wist43]

To me, Walker is a TT indictment.

I don't know how much you can really blame Walker on TT considering that he has played relatively poorly and generally made an ass of himself in every place he's played since here. If he behaves like an ass in Green Bay, and he behaves like an ass in Denver, and he behaves like an ass in Oakland... he might just be an ass.

I said his turning into a knob, notwithstanding... don't feel like arguing about Walker.

What's he do with the defense??? Looks like a mess...