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  • #16
    Jolly/Pickett/Jenkins would be the front 3.

    Barnett would be cut as 3-4 LBs have to be able to take on blockers and Barnett cannot. Plus, Barnett is coming off major injury and is overpaid. We can give his money to Collins. Hawk is a fine inside LB for a 3-4 and so is Bishop. With Everette Brown (assuming we draft him) and Kampman we'd have two stud pass rushers on the ends.
    Formerly known as JustinHarrell.

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    • #17
      Originally posted by JustinHarrell
      If we become a 3-4 defense, I hope we put Kampman as a rush LB. 6'4", 265 is about normal for a rush OLB. I know he's a little stiff to drop back, but for the most part he should be the designated pass rusher anyway.
      You are far more concerned with size and measureables than you should be.

      Who cares how big he is? Dude can play anywhere. They'll line him up in several different spots would be my guess.

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      • #18
        Originally posted by JustinHarrell
        Barnett would be cut

        Where do you get some of this stuff?

        Trader Ted is going to CUT our best LB?

        Trader Ted is going to CUT our defensive leader?

        C'mon man. :P

        Sometimes you kill me with this stuff.

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        • #19
          I don't like Barnett. I think he's a very average player. He'd get killed in a 3-4 where he doesn't have the cover of an extra DT.
          Formerly known as JustinHarrell.

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          • #20
            Originally posted by Partial
            Originally posted by JustinHarrell
            If we become a 3-4 defense, I hope we put Kampman as a rush LB. 6'4", 265 is about normal for a rush OLB. I know he's a little stiff to drop back, but for the most part he should be the designated pass rusher anyway.
            You are far more concerned with size and measureables than you should be.

            Who cares how big he is? Dude can play anywhere. They'll line him up in several different spots would be my guess.
            He's too good of a pass rusher to waste his talent as a 3-4 end. That position is mostly a grunt position. Plus, he'd get washed out against double teams and 3-4 DE's are two gappers. Plus there are no 3-4 DE's that are his size. NOt to say he couldn't because of it, just that nobody is doing it so odds are he won't either.
            Formerly known as JustinHarrell.

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            • #21
              Originally posted by JustinHarrell
              Originally posted by Partial
              Originally posted by JustinHarrell
              If we become a 3-4 defense, I hope we put Kampman as a rush LB. 6'4", 265 is about normal for a rush OLB. I know he's a little stiff to drop back, but for the most part he should be the designated pass rusher anyway.
              You are far more concerned with size and measureables than you should be.

              Who cares how big he is? Dude can play anywhere. They'll line him up in several different spots would be my guess.
              He's too good of a pass rusher to waste his talent as a 3-4 end. That position is mostly a grunt position. Plus, he'd get washed out against double teams and 3-4 DE's are two gappers. Plus there are no 3-4 DE's that are his size. NOt to say he couldn't because of it, just that nobody is doing it so odds are he won't either.
              I completely agree. I'm just sayin... Coordinators will take advantage of a guy like Kamp. He's NOT the liability type.

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              • #22
                Isnt D-Ware a "grunt" by that description?

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                • #23
                  Originally posted by mission
                  Isnt D-Ware a "grunt" by that description?

                  He plays OLB, the same position I would hope Kamp would play.

                  3-4 OLB's are just undersized DE's that can rush the passer but still move well enough to drop back from time to time.
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                  • #24
                    Originally posted by JustinHarrell
                    Originally posted by mission
                    Isnt D-Ware a "grunt" by that description?

                    He plays OLB, the same position I would hope Kamp would play.

                    3-4 OLB's are just undersized DE's that can rush the passer but still move well enough to drop back from time to time.
                    Right. But don't be dismissive of the position is all I was saying. You seemed to insinuate he was above playing that spot ... I think if utilized properly, he can make an impact anywhere on the field. If not, then he's not the best guy for the position.

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                    • #25
                      Remember, some one posted a breakdown of different type of 3-4 defenses you can play. I don't know how technically accurate it was, but the ideas were pretty basic.

                      Remember the 3-4 played by the Giants in '86 or the Patiots in the Super Bowl against the Pack? Each featured a "linebacker" who essentially lined up at defensive end 24 hours a day, but at a standing position. Lawrence Taylor and Willie McGinest.

                      In contrast, the Steelers play fast on the outside and are usually big in the middle. Remember Levon Kirkland? The size of the OLBs and ILBs depends entirely on how they align the seven, not just on the fact that 3 of the seven will be called lineman now instead of four.

                      You cannot speculate on who fits where until you know what the alignment will look like. If we could get the rosters for the Redskins during his time there, we might get an idea. I am not sure if San Fran was entirely his scheme or a partnership with his D coordinator.
                      Bud Adams told me the franchise he admired the most was the Kansas City Chiefs. Then he asked for more hookers and blow.

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                      • #26
                        If they play a tweener LB/DL at one end standing up and align him and the 3 d lineman like you might see in a 4-3 defense, you might be surprised that the other three backers will, in size anyway, look pretty similar to what we have.

                        If they go the Steeler route, then all bets are off.
                        Bud Adams told me the franchise he admired the most was the Kansas City Chiefs. Then he asked for more hookers and blow.

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                        • #27
                          If this guy, Jarret Johnson, can play OLB in Baltimore's scheme, then I guess why can't Kampman?

                          "There's a lot of interest in the draft. It's great. But quite frankly, most of the people that are commenting on it don't know anything about what they are talking about."--Ted Thompson

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                          • #28
                            Back to the original subject...Maybe he's not interviewing for the DC job. The Packers don't currently have a DL coach.
                            I can't run no more
                            With that lawless crowd
                            While the killers in high places
                            Say their prayers out loud
                            But they've summoned, they've summoned up
                            A thundercloud
                            They're going to hear from me - Leonard Cohen

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                            • #29
                              Originally posted by JustinHarrell
                              If we become a 3-4 defense, I hope we put Kampman as a rush LB. 6'4", 265 is about normal for a rush OLB. I know he's a little stiff to drop back, but for the most part he should be the designated pass rusher anyway.
                              Cleft Crusty hasn't laughed in six years. Six long years, 482 doctor appointments, 43 trips to the ER, 7 major surgeries later and JH cracks me up with the thought of Kampman running around as an OLB in a 3-4 scheme. That's almost as funny as the thought of Al Davis on 'Dancing with the Stars.'

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                              • #30
                                Originally posted by Joemailman
                                Back to the original subject...Maybe he's not interviewing for the DC job. The Packers don't currently have a DL coach.
                                Wouldn't the new defensive coordinator have a reasonable expectation of being able to hire his own defensive line coach? Depending on what sort of scheme the new DC wants to run, he might want a different defensive line coach. Anyway, don't coordinators usually hire their assistants? It would make it harder to convince a guy to take the job if you tell him who his assistants are going to be, at any rate.
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