Gerald McCoy

[rbaloha1]

Redshirt sophmores are eligible (ie Knowshon Moreno declared yesterday).

After this performance expect McCoy to declare. Again McCoy may not be available at #9. Maybe Crabtree drops and is available at #9.

IMO Crabtree is too good to pass up.

[PaCkFan_n_MD]

IMO Crabtree is too good to pass up.

Interesting. Another WR? You would almost have to trade Driver (maybe for like a second rounder).

Crabtree, Jennings, Jones, Nelson, Martin. Rodgers might have one the best set of Wrs seen in a long time.

I would prefer a d-line player though.

[digitaldean]

I agree on McCoy. He sure was all over the place in the first half.

Never saw Orakpo play except for game highlights. Would he be a better fit or would he be gone by #9?

[Lurker64]

Never saw Orakpo play except for game highlights. Would he be a better fit or would he be gone by #9?

Orakpo is a standard "smallish' college DE that has a very good outside speed move for rushing the passer, and a decent inside spin move. He's also strong enough to hold the point against the run for the most part, but he will need to both bulk up and work on pass-rushing technique to be an every down contributor in the NFL.

Whether he's gone? Who knows. Does he fit? Who knows what defense we'll be running in March.

[rbaloha1]

IMO Crabtree is too good to pass up.

Interesting. Another WR? You would almost have to trade Driver (maybe for like a second rounder).

Crabtree, Jennings, Jones, Nelson, Martin. Rodgers might have one the best set of Wrs seen in a long time.

I would prefer a d-line player though.

Please do not forget Jennings next season could be his last. Coupled with DD's age -- Crabtree is excellent value at #9

[Lurker64]

Please do not forget Jennings next season could be his last. Coupled with DD's age -- Crabtree is excellent value at #9

Jennings wants to stay in Green Bay, and if a deal can't be worked out this year, he's worth the top #5 WR money if we franchise him. Why waste a first round pick on a WR who may develop to the a top talent in the league, when you already have a WR who's a top talent in the league because you may not be able to resign him?

Among players I definitely do not want at #9 are "any of the QBs", "any of the WRs", and "any of the RBs".

[Farley Face]

From Football's Future:

Gerald McCoy, DT, Oklahoma [Prediction: Returning 65%] – McCoy had the talent from day one with a good combination of size and speed. He stepped up his production this season and worked his way into scenario where he has a legitimate decision to make. While the tackle class may be deep, if others decide to return to school, McCoy could leave and be one of the first defensive tackles off the board. We’ll likely have to wait until after the Title game before hearing from him. Projected Round: 1st.

My note:

6-4 295 are his measurables

[PaCkFan_n_MD]

No way Jennings goes to another team. TT will not let that happen. Other than Rodgers, Jennings has been TT best pick. Why would he let him walk after we spent years developing him?

[BF4MVP]

Very good player. Could he play DE in a 3-4?

I've been impressed by this guy. http://www.footballsfuture.com/2009/...e_gresham.html

Anybody know if he's declared for the draft?

Wow

Impressive. 6'6", 260 and had almost 900 receiving yards and 12 TDs not including tonight. Those are impressive numbers for a college tight end.

I'd be more inclined to go defense, though. Especially since I think Finley could make a pretty big jump next season..At least I hope so..He showed some big play potential towards the end of the season.

I wouldn't pass on someone who could be a special talent just because he's a TE, though.

[BF4MVP]

No way Jennings goes to another team. TT will not let that happen. Other than Rodgers, Jennings has been TT best pick. Why would he let him walk after we spent years developing him?

I agree. Jennings wants to stay, and TT will pay him.

[rbaloha1]

Please do not forget Jennings next season could be his last. Coupled with DD's age -- Crabtree is excellent value at #9

Jennings wants to stay in Green Bay, and if a deal can't be worked out this year, he's worth the top #5 WR money if we franchise him. Why waste a first round pick on a WR who may develop to the a top talent in the league, when you already have a WR who's a top talent in the league because you may not be able to resign him?

Noted. Still no guarantee. What about Nick Collins signing?

TT like Ron Wolf generally picks best available. Yes, the qbs do not factor in but if McCoy and Mays are already taken what other players warrant a #9 pick? Crabtree imo does. (Assuming available)

[Lurker64]

TT like Ron Wolf generally picks best available. Yes, the qbs do not factor in but if McCoy and Mays are already taken what other players warrant a #9 pick? Crabtree imo does. (Assuming available)

Before you conclude that Crabtree is too good to pass up and he's a surefire difference maker and pro bowler, I'd suggest you do some research on how often these guys come up and how often they're busts.

I mean, if you want a crash course on this, just look at recent Detroit Lions drafts. Crabtree isn't half the college player that Calvin Johnson was, and if Calvin Johnson was available to draft at #9 this year, I don't think I would take him.

[PaCkFan_n_MD]

TT like Ron Wolf generally picks best available. Yes, the qbs do not factor in but if McCoy and Mays are already taken what other players warrant a #9 pick? Crabtree imo does. (Assuming available)

Before you conclude that Crabtree is too good to pass up and he's a surefire difference maker and pro bowler, I'd suggest you do some research on how often these guys come up and how often they're busts.

I mean, if you want a crash course on this, just look at recent Detroit Lions drafts. Crabtree isn't half the college player that Calvin Johnson was, and if Calvin Johnson was available to draft at #9 this year, I don't think I would take him.

Let me start off by saying I by no means want to trade Driver and do not want a Wr in the first round. But lets say Carbtree was available and lets say you had a trade partner that would take Driver for a high second round pick. Would you pick Crabtree and trade Driver?

[rbaloha1]

TT like Ron Wolf generally picks best available. Yes, the qbs do not factor in but if McCoy and Mays are already taken what other players warrant a #9 pick? Crabtree imo does. (Assuming available)

Before you conclude that Crabtree is too good to pass up and he's a surefire difference maker and pro bowler, I'd suggest you do some research on how often these guys come up and how often they're busts.

I mean, if you want a crash course on this, just look at recent Detroit Lions drafts. Crabtree isn't half the college player that Calvin Johnson was, and if Calvin Johnson was available to draft at #9 this year, I don't think I would take him.

Never said he was a surefire probowler. Looking at who could be available at #9. Different player than CJ. More like Larry Fitzgerald. Not great 40 time but instinctual and play fast.

Who would take at #9 Orakpo or Crabtree?

[rbaloha1]

TT like Ron Wolf generally picks best available. Yes, the qbs do not factor in but if McCoy and Mays are already taken what other players warrant a #9 pick? Crabtree imo does. (Assuming available)

Before you conclude that Crabtree is too good to pass up and he's a surefire difference maker and pro bowler, I'd suggest you do some research on how often these guys come up and how often they're busts.

I mean, if you want a crash course on this, just look at recent Detroit Lions drafts. Crabtree isn't half the college player that Calvin Johnson was, and if Calvin Johnson was available to draft at #9 this year, I don't think I would take him.

Let me start off by saying I by no means want to trade Driver and do not want a Wr in the first round. But lets say Carbtree was available and lets say you had a trade partner that would take Driver for a high second round pick. Would you pick Crabtree and trade Driver?

Draft Crabtree and keep DD. DD can help with the mentoring. Crabtree would compete for #3 eventually taking over for DD.