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  • #16
    This may be a dumb question, because I don't understand the system for identifying Head Coaching prospects, but why was Moss on someone's radar in the first place? Do you think it was the Asst. Head Coach title - or is the GM someone he has worked with in the past?
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    • #17
      Originally posted by MacCool606
      This may be a dumb question, because I don't understand the system for identifying Head Coaching prospects, but why was Moss on someone's radar in the first place? Do you think it was the Asst. Head Coach title - or is the GM someone he has worked with in the past?
      There are all sorts of things that get you on the radar. Plenty of guys that aren't assistant head coaches or DC get looks...marinelli for instance. Jason Garrett has been on everybody's radar long before he was promoted to assistant hc and OC.

      GMs are looking at coaches the same way they look at players...evaluating talent, and projecting success.

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      • #18
        Originally posted by pbmax
        Well, I emailed Mr. McGinn and he very kindly replied. He said the quote (a third hand source - this was not a quote of Moss' words) was verbatim and specifically addressed defense.

        The context was that even Moss felt like he should be a coordinator first before a head coach. To McGinn, he felt like this was a truism, that to truly understand how to choose and implement a defense, you must be a coordinator first.

        I think Silverstein mentioned earlier that Moss had a specific plan to become a head coach, eventually. He might have taken the interview even though he truly wanted to be a defensive coordinator first. If this was planned, then I salute him for sticking to it and knowing himself.

        But like Patler, I wonder how much use he was as an Asst. HC. And I wonder if Moss was carrying water for McCarthy in those defensive meetings. This might have been some of the source of the internal friction.

        Doesn't sound like a guy I'd have a lot of confidence in to lead a defense either
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        • #19
          Originally posted by Bretsky
          Originally posted by pbmax
          Well, I emailed Mr. McGinn and he very kindly replied. He said the quote (a third hand source - this was not a quote of Moss' words) was verbatim and specifically addressed defense.

          The context was that even Moss felt like he should be a coordinator first before a head coach. To McGinn, he felt like this was a truism, that to truly understand how to choose and implement a defense, you must be a coordinator first.

          I think Silverstein mentioned earlier that Moss had a specific plan to become a head coach, eventually. He might have taken the interview even though he truly wanted to be a defensive coordinator first. If this was planned, then I salute him for sticking to it and knowing himself.

          But like Patler, I wonder how much use he was as an Asst. HC. And I wonder if Moss was carrying water for McCarthy in those defensive meetings. This might have been some of the source of the internal friction.

          Doesn't sound like a guy I'd have a lot of confidence in to lead a defense either
          Agreed. Maybe he is MM's mole and why retained. The lb player was pathetic.

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          • #20
            Originally posted by Bretsky
            Originally posted by pbmax
            Well, I emailed Mr. McGinn and he very kindly replied. He said the quote (a third hand source - this was not a quote of Moss' words) was verbatim and specifically addressed defense.

            The context was that even Moss felt like he should be a coordinator first before a head coach. To McGinn, he felt like this was a truism, that to truly understand how to choose and implement a defense, you must be a coordinator first.

            I think Silverstein mentioned earlier that Moss had a specific plan to become a head coach, eventually. He might have taken the interview even though he truly wanted to be a defensive coordinator first. If this was planned, then I salute him for sticking to it and knowing himself.

            But like Patler, I wonder how much use he was as an Asst. HC. And I wonder if Moss was carrying water for McCarthy in those defensive meetings. This might have been some of the source of the internal friction.

            Doesn't sound like a guy I'd have a lot of confidence in to lead a defense either
            I think the most likely explanation is that Moss is getting some Rooney Rule love. He has the title of Asst. Head Coach and he is loathe to reject the interview. I am sure he has repeatedly been told not to pass up a chance for people to get to know you.

            But that doesn't mean he is ready, and it doesn't mean that he would be more comfortable to ascend to coordinator first, before head coach.
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            • #21
              The Asst. Head Coach title is largely meaningless. Assistant coaches usually can't get out of their contracts unless they are getting a promotion. Naming Moss Asst. HC meant he couldn't leave for a DC job. At least that's how I understand it.

              Odd that Moss would agree to that if he really wanted to be a DC first, because taking the Asst. HC title meant he could only become a DC in Green Bay unless he got fired or finished up his contract.

              I'd still like to know what qualities this guy has to generate all the promotion buzz. I'm sure the Rooney rule is getting him some interviews, but the rule had nothing to do with him getting the Asst. HC title.
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              • #22
                I don't know how Winston is as a coach. From what I've read his player like him. My problem now is that the more I read, the more this story reminds of good ol Sherman Lewis - the OC under Holmgren. There was a guy that never really had to do anything. But, everytime there was a HC job open, with another team, Ron Wolf would promote him for the job. I almost got the feeling he was saying - take him someone - anyone - PLEASE.
                Then, when Holmgren bolted for Seattle, Wolf wouldn't promote him for his own HC.
                I hate to put Winston in that category, but for some reason, one ane one isn't equaling two here
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                • #23
                  How do we know how the interviews in St. Louis went, really? Moss sure as hell wouldn't reveal that and I can't see what benefit it would be for the Rams to talk either. I sure wouldn't want a potential employer to tell anyone how an interview went - especially to the media!

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