Saints Hire Williams

[Cleft Crusty]

It was an interesting argument from Waldo, but I think it comes from being nearsighted. If you glance around the NFL, you will notice that job security is not one of the defining features of coaching. There is a lot of turnover and many coaches currently coaching have been fired multiple times from multiple positions. And yes, injuries lead to losses, and losses lead to getting fired.

[HarveyWallbangers]

The Saint' D has been ranked 13th, 25th, and 26th in scoring in his tenure, and was 28th the year before he took over.

The Packers D has been ranked 25th, 6th, and 22nd in scoring in his tenure, and was 19th the year before he took over.

New Orleans = 21th on average
Green Bay = 18th on average

Not a whole lot different. I imagine both HCs were hoping the defenses would be better after 3 years. Thus, the switch was made. Plus, both coaches are facing crucial seasons where their own behinds are on the line. It's not at all surprising that both teams decided to can their DCs.

[Brohm]

As far as $$, TT is the same guy that signed Sherman to an extension and promptly fired him. SHouldn't be an issue (one would hope).

[Waldo]

It was an interesting argument from Waldo, but I think it comes from being nearsighted. If you glance around the NFL, you will notice that job security is not one of the defining features of coaching. There is a lot of turnover and many coaches currently coaching have been fired multiple times from multiple positions. And yes, injuries lead to losses, and losses lead to getting fired.

It isn't, but job security is especially bad in GB.

Especially when every written word from the GB press has an undertone of fire the general manager. The average GB fan's hatred of their general manager is fairly unique, bordering on lunacy, I haven't seen any other fan base like ours, IMO is is borne solely from our press, since in the national press Thompson is quite highly regarded. Heck you'd think that he has a track record as bad as Millen with the way the average GB fan and reporter talks. I really have no idea why our press hates him as much as they do, did he come into town kicking kittens and running people's dogs over?

[Pugger]

The WI press may not like TT cuz he keeps everything to himself and he isn't the most charismatic person in the world = not a good interview for the media?

[TheCheese]

It was an interesting argument from Waldo, but I think it comes from being nearsighted. If you glance around the NFL, you will notice that job security is not one of the defining features of coaching. There is a lot of turnover and many coaches currently coaching have been fired multiple times from multiple positions. And yes, injuries lead to losses, and losses lead to getting fired.

It isn't, but job security is especially bad in GB.

Especially when every written word from the GB press has an undertone of fire the general manager. The average GB fan's hatred of their general manager is fairly unique, bordering on lunacy, I haven't seen any other fan base like ours, IMO is is borne solely from our press, since in the national press Thompson is quite highly regarded. Heck you'd think that he has a track record as bad as Millen with the way the average GB fan and reporter talks. I really have no idea why our press hates him as much as they do, did he come into town kicking kittens and running people's dogs over?

I will agree on the paradox on how Ted is such a polarizing figure. I don't know what it is about him. I mean there are people out there who fricking hate this guy. I don't get it, as long as he keeps drafting the way he does I'm ok with him.

[Lurker64]

The funny thing is that if Thompson is eventually fired, history most likely will remember that Thompson was a good drafter who was conservative yet effective in free agency, who was run out of town by public pressure because he ran Favre out of town.

If we fire him, he won't have a hard time becoming GM of another team, and we would probably have a hard time finding a better GM.

[Waldo]

The funny thing is that if Thompson is eventually fired, history most likely will remember that Thompson was a good drafter who was conservative yet effective in free agency, who was run out of town by public pressure because he ran Favre out of town.

If we fire him, he won't have a hard time becoming GM of another team, and we would probably have a hard time finding a better GM.

That pressure was there from the day he was hired. It was worse in McCarthy's first season than it was this season, though it seemingly has gotten worse and worse since the day Favre retired.

[sheepshead]

The WI press may not like TT cuz he keeps everything to himself and he isn't the most charismatic person in the world = not a good interview for the media?

I think he is one of the best general managers in the league. I dont think he needs to be front and center on this football team. That's the head coaches and team captains job. The problem is with fantasy football and internet sites with scouting reports, everyone thinks they can do that job better then he can.

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[Fritz]

I think Waldo is correct that TT seems to inspire more ire than most GM's and that the GB press does not seem to like him. Lots of negative press, or at least lukewarm press last year.

I don't get it. I really can't think of another GM currently running a franchise that I'd rather have.

[Gunakor]

I'm fine with it. In fact, I'm glad. Why? Because McDermott is the best candidate out there, and he's not on the market until the Eagles are eliminated. The more teams that fill their DC positions before that happens, the less competition we have to deal with when bidding for his services.

[Fritz]

There seems to be a jelling of opinion here that McDermott would excite the packerrats, Moss would disappoint them, and Haslett would get a mixed reception.

[Bretsky]

f'ck

The Bikini Girls are not happy and are pondering going to the Saints

If Winston Moss is hired the Bikini Girls will most likely be gone forever

[Partial]

I'm fine with it. In fact, I'm glad. Why? Because McDermott is the best candidate out there, and he's not on the market until the Eagles are eliminated. The more teams that fill their DC positions before that happens, the less competition we have to deal with when bidding for his services.

These kind of statements bother me. While I think it is natural to want to give someone a shot and give fresh blood a try, I don't think you necessarily do that when the candidates available are studs. Greg Williams was the 2nd highest paid assistant in the NFL for a reason. He's been known as an absolute stud coordinator for a long, long time.

McDermott is completely unknown. How can he be the best candidate? Some guys work out - Spanulo - some don't - VB.

[Lurker64]

The thing I'm a little perturbed about is the notion that the Packers are "missing out" on their "first choices". So far there's been a lot of media speculation about who's the #1 pick for the job, but there hasn't been much in the way of hard and fast details or sources. Do we even know if the job was offered to Nolan or Williams?

If McCarthy didn't see fit to offer the gig to Williams or Nolan, it's likely that he thought there was something about either that didn't fit or wouldn't fit as well as somebody else. He may well be wrong in this estimation, but I'm in no position to speculate either way.