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  • Perch Harvin in Brandon Spikes out

    Harvin is an excellent trade down candidate although imo a better prospect than Ginn at #7.

    Bummed about Spikes. Maybe RM is the guy now. Is RM a reach at the #9 pick?

  • #2
    I'm a big Harvin fan but I wouldn't touch him that early. He's not as fast as Ginn imo and he's more a scatback still than a receiver. He'll need a year or three to grow into a receiver role.

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    • #3
      Originally posted by Partial
      I'm a big Harvin fan but I wouldn't touch him that early. He's not as fast as Ginn imo and he's more a scatback still than a receiver. He'll need a year or three to grow into a receiver role.
      Agree -- does not possess Ginn's raw speed but has better feet and cutting ability. Too bad Harvin was injured a good part of the season. Even with the bad ankle displayed big play abilities in the national championship game.

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      • #4
        I doubt that Harvin will be available anywhere in the draft where it will make sense for us to take him. We just don't need any more first day WRs. We probably wouldn't take him anyway since Thompson's preference is definitely for guys who have great hands, run good routes, and have considerable production to their names (e.g. Jennings, Nelson) rather than big school guys who are amazing athletes but will need to polish their route running to be great NFL receivers (e.g. Chad Jackson, DeSean Jackson). Harvin doesn't look like the kind of guy we'd draft at all, but he is a quite the athlete.

        Spikes not declaring is too bad for us though, I still don't think Maualuga is the right pick at #9, but Spikes not coming out will mean that the value for LB later on is less, which is when we should be drafting a LB anyway, IMO.
        </delurk>

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        • #5
          Originally posted by Lurker64
          I doubt that Harvin will be available anywhere in the draft where it will make sense for us to take him. We just don't need any more first day WRs. We probably wouldn't take him anyway since Thompson's preference is definitely for guys who have great hands, run good routes, and have considerable production to their names (e.g. Jennings, Nelson) rather than big school guys who are amazing athletes but will need to polish their route running to be great NFL receivers (e.g. Chad Jackson, DeSean Jackson). Harvin doesn't look like the kind of guy we'd draft at all, but he is a quite the athlete.

          Spikes not declaring is too bad for us though, I still don't think Maualuga is the right pick at #9, but Spikes not coming out will mean that the value for LB later on is less, which is when we should be drafting a LB anyway, IMO.
          Good point. Yes Harvin does not meet TT's mo for wrs.

          However Harvin could work for the Packers as another return person, slot receiver and gulp potential wildcat plays.

          Yes, Harvin is not a product of a pro offense but can still be worked into the packers offense. The guy is a difference maker. Desean Jackson had a very nice rookie year.

          On the fence with RM.

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          • #6
            I really don't think we need a linebacker.

            Harvin is exactly the kind of luxury item I have spoken of that a team like the Packers--with no really pressing needs (just watch the negativists jump on that line)can use--a Slaton-type speed runner. However, I also would not draft Harvin at #9 of the first round. I'm not sure I would even draft him later in the first round, as Thompson ought to be able to find some kind of a gem in the mid to late rounds--kinda like Ahmad Bradshaw or Tashard Choice.

            I think the Packers will not trade down, and will go for either a corner--Jenkins or Davis or a big mobile offensive tackle.

            If Crabtree is there, though, he'd be hard to pass up no matter how loaded we are at wideout.
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            • #7
              Originally posted by texaspackerbacker
              I really don't think we need a linebacker.

              Disagree. Hawk is average, Barnett is coming off injury, Poppinga is not starting material and Chillar may only be a coverage lb.

              Harvin is exactly the kind of luxury item I have spoken of that a team like the Packers--with no really pressing needs (just watch the negativists jump on that line)can use--a Slaton-type speed runner. However, I also would not draft Harvin at #9 of the first round. I'm not sure I would even draft him later in the first round, as Thompson ought to be able to find some kind of a gem in the mid to late rounds--kinda like Ahmad Bradshaw or Tashard Choice.

              Exactly. The only person capable on the roster is Blackmon (played wr senior year). Harvin adds a dimension lacking on the Packers. Do not suggest taking at #9 but a good trade down option. Harvin's value will rise due to the lack of wrs in the draft and possible more teams considering wildcat plays.

              I think the Packers will not trade down, and will go for either a corner--Jenkins or Davis or a big mobile offensive tackle.

              Probably the best players available at #9

              If Crabtree is there, though, he'd be hard to pass up no matter how loaded we are at wideout.
              Crabtree will not be available at #9.

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              • #8
                No one thought Adrian Peterson would be available for the Vikes at the 7th slot a couple years ago either. You just never know. Thats what keeps the draft addicts coming back year after year.
                Originally posted by 3irty1
                This is museum quality stupidity.

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by Zool
                  No one thought Adrian Peterson would be available for the Vikes at the 7th slot a couple years ago either. You just never know. Thats what keeps the draft addicts coming back year after year.
                  What? Everybody did. A lot of people thought he'd last until the Texans at 10.

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                  • #10
                    I thought AP was supposed to go Top 3 ???

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by mission
                      I thought AP was supposed to go Top 3 ???
                      That year, most people anticipated the top 3 being Jamarcus Russell, Calvin Johnson, and Brady Quinn in some order.
                      </delurk>

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                      • #12
                        No one really knew what the Browns would do being that they needed....well everything. I kinda figured they would take AP.
                        Originally posted by 3irty1
                        This is museum quality stupidity.

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by Lurker64
                          Originally posted by mission
                          I thought AP was supposed to go Top 3 ???
                          That year, most people anticipated the top 3 being Jamarcus Russell, Calvin Johnson, and Brady Quinn in some order.
                          Lions had the second pick that year. The three names bandied about were Russell, Johnson, and Peterson.

                          the waters were muddy about AP.
                          "The Devine era is actually worse than you remember if you go back and look at it."

                          KYPack

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by Fritz
                            Originally posted by Lurker64
                            Originally posted by mission
                            I thought AP was supposed to go Top 3 ???
                            That year, most people anticipated the top 3 being Jamarcus Russell, Calvin Johnson, and Brady Quinn in some order.
                            Lions had the second pick that year. The three names bandied about were Russell, Johnson, and Peterson.

                            the waters were muddy about AP.
                            True. The questions about AP were the running style -- runs too high.

                            The only thing with Crabtree is the 40 time which imo is irrelevant. This dude is probably a consensus top 5 if not top 3 selection.

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by Lurker64
                              Originally posted by mission
                              I thought AP was supposed to go Top 3 ???
                              That year, most people anticipated the top 3 being Jamarcus Russell, Calvin Johnson, and Brady Quinn in some order.
                              That was a pretty humiliating day for Brady Quinn. Before he had a chance to stand up and acknowledge his big moment the janitor had already been by twice asking Quinn to pick up his feet so he could finish mopping.

                              Good thing he had Tetris on his cell phone.
                              [QUOTE=George Cumby] ...every draft (Ted) would pick a solid, dependable, smart, athletically limited linebacker...the guy who isn't doing drugs, going to strip bars, knocking around his girlfriend or making any plays of game changing significance.

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