Dom Capers?

[pack4to84]

If we want Caper where going to have to act fast because Dallas in now interested in him.

http://www.jsonline.com/blogs/sports/packers.html

[gbgary]

If we want Caper where going to have to act fast because Dallas in now interested in him.

http://www.jsonline.com/blogs/sports/packers.html

that's what i'm saying. if MM's let his guy get away twice now, that's stupid.

[pbmax]

A couple of things about the 3-4, Tampa 2 and their natural enemies. The WCO was designed by Walsh to beat the Steelers Cover-2 in the 70s. He was the O Coordinator for Paul Brown (a man who knew more about passing offense than anyone else at the time in Pro Football) in Cincinnati.

Remember when the 49ers scored 55 gazillion points against the Broncos in Super Bowl XXIV? That was a 3-4 team playing Cover-2 zone. The Niner coaches after the game were amazed that the Broncos changed nothing and basically said, good luck stopping this offense, which is designed to beat your coverage, when you cannot dominate physically.

Now flash backward to 1986 and the Giants are in the process of knocking Joe Montana out of the game and winning 15-2. Guess what defense the Giants were based on? 3-4 and Cover 2. Was Bill Walsh suddenly seized with a case of Rich Kotite? Did he experiment with the Run and Shoot for a playoff game?

No. Parcells and Belicheck had the ultimate tweener in Lawrence Taylor who essentially could play DE or LB. Most importantly, no matter the scheme, he stood an even chance at this point in his career of knocking the QB out of any game he played. If I am not mistaken, the Giants roasted the vaunted 49er passing offense while playing Elvis "Toast" Patterson as a starting cornerback. In addition to having one of the greatest nicknames in football, Elvis looked alot like Darren Sharper as WRs had a habit of running right past him for touchdowns.

Belicheck has often employed a hybrid 3-4, which is unlike the balanced look Waldo mentioned earlier and looks more like Shurmur's 4-3. He also would have mixed coverages so Montana could not know where he was going to go before the snap. The point is, that no matter what the depth chart says, or the jersey numbers on the field, what counts is alignment and responsibilities. And the ability to dominate an opponent physically.

As for the Tampa-2, be careful here. Even Tampa Bay and Indianapolis do not play Cover 2 much on 1st and second down. They are often in Cover-1 when they want to stop the run. Tampa-2 is for obvious passing situations. Because its a zone, its also less dangerous if you get a draw or screen, as many defenders are facing the LOS. The change Dungy made to account for the WCO short passing game was to have the CBs not play a deep drop zone like the Steelers CBs, but play the short zone and then under certain circumstances, matchup man to man. This makes slants an adventure. But it also makes an inviting target in the middle of the field for the TE, which in a WCO, was usually a good, fast receiver.

[Bretsky]

If we want Caper where going to have to act fast because Dallas in now interested in him.

http://www.jsonline.com/blogs/sports/packers.html

unlikely for MM to act fast IMO

[Fritz]

If we want Caper where going to have to act fast because Dallas in now interested in him.

http://www.jsonline.com/blogs/sports/packers.html

unlikely for MM to act fast IMO

"If" is the key word. Nobody except MM and TT really knows, do they? So not getting him does not automatically mean that MM and TT have failed.

[pbmax]

Although it might get woolly before he gets it done, in one way I am encouraged M3 is taking his time. He obviously placed too much emphasis on continuity in hiring Sanders the first go around. He has clearly come to believe he wants a more flexible style that will not rely on having two pass rushing demons.

So this is part of his learning curve. As Patler observed, it would have been far better to know what you want to complement your offense when you get hired. But I doubt that M3 is the first new HC to get the other side of the ball wrong with his first hire. The interviews will help this process, I just hope he can finish in time.

[pack4to84]

Capers is the best option to date to be interviewed. Williams and his money and ego would be to much for TT and MM. While Nolan pride got into the way thinking since MM was the coach he was the shoe-in for DC. Didn't happen that way so he went his way. GB defense has young and old talent that keep making the same mistakes. Capers is a disciplinarian that is what this defense needs. My search would be over and Capers would be the DC by the end of today.

[Bretsky]

If we want Caper where going to have to act fast because Dallas in now interested in him.

http://www.jsonline.com/blogs/sports/packers.html

unlikely for MM to act fast IMO

"If" is the key word. Nobody except MM and TT really knows, do they? So not getting him does not automatically mean that MM and TT have failed.

I've played unknown card in defending Favre much of last off season

Do you honestly, honestly, believe MM did not want Nolan or Williams to be our defensive coordinator ?

I think these JSO guys know what they are talking about more than you give them credit for.

[Bretsky]

On another sidenote, I will probably be fine with whoever the DC is as long as it's not Winston Moss. But I buy into a good portion of what JS is reporting

[pbmax]

I've played unknown card in defending Favre much of last off season

Do you honestly, honestly, believe MM did not want Nolan or Williams to be our defensive coordinator ?

I think these JSO guys know what they are talking about more than you give them credit for.

Did the Haslett interview occur before Williams made his decision?

[RashanGary]

Belicheck has often employed a hybrid 3-4, which is unlike the balanced look Waldo mentioned earlier and looks more like Shurmur's 4-3. He also would have mixed coverages so Montana could not know where he was going to go before the snap. The point is, that no matter what the depth chart says, or the jersey numbers on the field, what counts is alignment and responsibilities. And the ability to dominate an opponent physically.

Well said.

[Bretsky]

I've played unknown card in defending Favre much of last off season

Do you honestly, honestly, believe MM did not want Nolan or Williams to be our defensive coordinator ?

I think these JSO guys know what they are talking about more than you give them credit for.

Did the Haslett interview occur before Williams made his decision?

I believe so, but everybody was writing that Williams preferred NO to GB before the interview

[BF4MVP]

C'mon Coach. Get it done. Hire Capers.

[Bretsky]

I'm not sure if Capers or Haslett is better; Haslett has the intense persona of how I stereotype a DC

[vince]

Do you honestly, honestly, believe MM did not want Nolan or Williams to be our defensive coordinator?

Do you honestly believe that these two came to Green Bay to be interviewed with no intention of accepting the job if offered it?

If Williams was such a slam-dunk "elite" selection, why did he get run out of town in Jacksonville? Because he took a perennial elite defense under Mike Smith, who became Atlanta's Head Coach, and made them the 21st ranked defense in the league in points given up last year. If he doesn't blow McCarthy away in an interview, there's a very good chance you pass him by. He's got some warts.

Same thing with Nolan.

I find it pretty easy to believe the Packers could pass on those two guys who are "proven" - proven to be little more than average, or worse - particularly of late.