Gruden fired The Tampa Bay Buccaneers have fired coach Jon

[Tyrone Bigguns]

That seems idiotic to me. The guy had most of his teams playing competetively and he got to the SB. I hear he's abrasive but I think he's a good coach.

Hmm...does Teddy pull a fast one and fire MM and hire Gruden? Not saying I think he should, but it would be interesting if he did.

He did well with the raiders, but didn't build the team. He took over.

Same thing in TB. He hasn't done jack since his SB win with Dungy and McKay's players.

[MTPackerfan]

What position did he coach when he was here in the early 90's?

[red]

What position did he coach when he was here in the early 90's?

wr's

[rbaloha1]

Gruden to the Jets to appease BF?

[Freak Out]

Looks like they fired the GM as well.

[Badgerinmaine]

Holy mackerel...and they didn't even miss the playoffs by all that much this year. Wow. Then again, this is the team that fired Tony Dungy.

[Fritz]

That seems idiotic to me. The guy had most of his teams playing competetively and he got to the SB. I hear he's abrasive but I think he's a good coach.

Hmm...does Teddy pull a fast one and fire MM and hire Gruden? Not saying I think he should, but it would be interesting if he did.

He did well with the raiders, but didn't build the team. He took over.

Same thing in TB. He hasn't done jack since his SB win with Dungy and McKay's players.

Well, we've got Teddy here to build the team. Gruden would just have to "coach 'em up."

Reminds me, a native Detroiter, of a move the Tigers pulled back in the 70's. They'd just hired a new guy, Les Moss, a career minor league coach, who managed the team for a couple of months, had a young, very young team, playing over .500 ball. But Sparky Anderson got fired from Cinci, and Detroit promptly fired Les Moss and hired Sparky.

Hmm. I do like MM, but this would be intriguing.

[Bretsky]

That seems idiotic to me. The guy had most of his teams playing competetively and he got to the SB. I hear he's abrasive but I think he's a good coach.

Hmm...does Teddy pull a fast one and fire MM and hire Gruden? Not saying I think he should, but it would be interesting if he did.

He did well with the raiders, but didn't build the team. He took over.

Same thing in TB. He hasn't done jack since his SB win with Dungy and McKay's players.

Well, we've got Teddy here to build the team. Gruden would just have to "coach 'em up."

Reminds me, a native Detroiter, of a move the Tigers pulled back in the 70's. They'd just hired a new guy, Les Moss, a career minor league coach, who managed the team for a couple of months, had a young, very young team, playing over .500 ball. But Sparky Anderson got fired from Cinci, and Detroit promptly fired Les Moss and hired Sparky.

Hmm. I do like MM, but this would be intriguing.

I'd take Chucky any day

[Joemailman]

I always thought he was overrated. Take away the Super Bowl he won with Dungy's team and he's barely a .500 coach. And he hasn't won a playoff game since the Super Bowl.

[Fritz]

Bretsky, who's Chucky? Gruden? Does he look like that Chucky doll from the movies?

[Rastak]

Bretsky, who's Chucky? Gruden? Does he look like that Chucky doll from the movies?

I can answer that....yes on both counts.

[Fritz]

So Ras, do you want the Vikings to fire Chilly and hire Gruden?

[pbmax]

Fritz, you had to have heard that one before, even the TV guys use it. Plus every second sign in his stadium.

Not a fan of Chucky or Gruden. Mr. Pouty Face always seemed like a show off to me. Doesn't mean he can't coach, but the tough guy routine annoys me no end.

[Rastak]

So Ras, do you want the Vikings to fire Chilly and hire Gruden?

Nope.


edit:
oops, I thought you meant will they!


Do I want it? Hmmmm, not a big Gruden guy so maybe no. Les Frazier I wouldn't mind, or coach Shannanigan.

[Fritz]

Fritz, you had to have heard that one before, even the TV guys use it. Plus every second sign in his stadium.

Not a fan of Chucky or Gruden. Mr. Pouty Face always seemed like a show off to me. Doesn't mean he can't coach, but the tough guy routine annoys me no end.

No, PB, I really haven't.

He reminds me of Billy Martin, the old baseball guy (Yanks shortstop way back when, then coach of many, many teams).

You hired Billy for the short term. He'd light a fire under everyone's asses. You were almost guaranteed short term success - the Tigers in '72, for example - but after two seasons, his act was old.