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    STUCK IN THE MIDDLE WITH YOUTH

    by Jerry Gilbert

    This article is a commentary on the offensive line of the Green Bay Packers. As matters now stand in early July of 2006, it appears that the middle of the offensive line will be manned by rookie Daryn Colledge, third year draftee Scott Wells and another rookie, Jason Spitz. It has been said that youth must be served, but this is not a situation that will help quarterback Brett Favre sleep at night. The current top reserve at both guard positions is second year player Junius Coston.

    The fine left and right offensive tackles for Green Bay, Chad Clifton and Mark Tauscher may also miss some sleep should Donald Driver, Bubba Franks or both of them sustain an injury. Imagine a skill position group of Robert Ferguson, Rod Gardner and David Martin. Tauscher, one to the best examples of Packer People we may ever see, will have to be thinking, clowns to the left of me jokers to the right, here I am.

    How bad is the offensive line situation? Youth alone is not a disqualifier. Both Tauscher and Clifton played well as rookies. Turning to the experience of another franchise, New England had a good season in 2005 starting two rookies in its offensive line, although they did not reach the Super Bowl as in years when veterans were in those positions. On the other hand, Scott Wells, who played both at left guard and center, and rookie William Whitticker, who started t at right guard last year, did not impress the coaches or the fans, and Junius Coston was not considered ready to challenge for a starting role. These players are young. Wells has played in about half the games the last two seasons. Spitz and Colledge have played in none. Coston was inactive for most games and only saw action for a few plays. These players have only the training camp and preseason games to develop competence as individuals and cohesion as a group. They will have to accomplish this with no significant reservoir of NFL experience to assist them.

    The fact that offensive coordinator Jeff Jagodzinski is installing an entirely new blocking scheme adds to the problem. Without that additional source of novelty and probable confusion, players such as Adrian Klemm, Tauscher and Clifton could provide many pointers to the young players. As matters stand, the veterans will have enough challenge simply learning their own positions, and little time or expertise to advise the newcomers.

    Scott Wells has said he played in a zone blocking system as an undergraduate at Tennessee. It helps if the leader of the group has some understanding of what is required from the beginning, but a similar college system could still be quite different. Time will tell if this experience is of much benefit.

    Events of the preseason have not improved the situation. Kevin Barry, who probably could not play guard in this offense anyway, was the only veteran guard candidate on the roster, and he sustained a season ending injury. His injury also reduces the likelihood of moving Mark Tauscher to guard, because Barry was the best alternative at tight tackle.

    Moreover, the fact that Chad Clifton and his backup Adrian Klemm are both sitting out with injuries, means that the young lineman are working in with the equally inexperienced William Whitticker who is filling in at left tackle. No one can blame Whitticker who lacks experience at tackle as well as in a zone system. Four fifths of the starting group, and all the top reserves right now are very young players.

    I think general manager Ted Thompson sees the problem. He did make a run at veteran Ross Verba, the former Packer draft choice who sat out last season in a contract dispute with Cleveland. Verba has since signed with Detroit. I suspect he is waiting to find a surplus lineman from Denver, Atlanta or another zone team. There are usually some serviceable veterans who are available as younger cheaper players prove themselves in preseason play. The problem is that these teams can see what I see, and they may be slow to release a likely candidate in hopes of working a trade for a Packer Draft choice.

    I do not believe that the Packers want to risk a situation in which a young player is struggling and there is no veteran to replace him. That is the current situation. Until a veteran is added, the offensive line of the Green Bay Packers will be stuck in the middle with youth.
    ** Since 2006 3 X Pro Pickem' Champion; 4 X Runner-Up and 3 X 3rd place.
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    ** If God doesn't fish, play poker or pull for " the Packers ", exactly what does HE do with his buds?
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  • #2
    keep the great articles coming woodbuck

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    • #3
      I'll feel a little more confident if TT signs a veteran guard between now and the start of the season for a back up role and experience for the younger guys. I would imagine that there will be one, somewhere, when teams start to shave their rosters down.

      However, I'm not too concerned if two rookies start at the guard positions. They'll put the best players on the field. I just hope the coaches set the line early so the first unit has time to get familiar with each other. IMO, the musical chairs idea last year with the linemen did not help.

      On a side note, I'd thought for sure that Coston, with a year under his belt, would be a shoe in at RG. It looks like Spitz is pushing for some playing time. Good for him! May the best man win.

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      • #4
        Originally posted by pittstang5
        I'll feel a little more confident if TT signs a veteran guard between now and the start of the season for a back up role and experience for the younger guys. I would imagine that there will be one, somewhere, when teams start to shave their rosters down.

        However, I'm not too concerned if two rookies start at the guard positions. They'll put the best players on the field. I just hope the coaches set the line early so the first unit has time to get familiar with each other. IMO, the musical chairs idea last year with the linemen did not help.

        On a side note, I'd thought for sure that Coston, with a year under his belt, would be a shoe in at RG. It looks like Spitz is pushing for some playing time. Good for him! May the best man win.
        We are going to see a lot of fights for positions in TC and that will really peak OUR interest and reward us for OUR patience in this dull period of OUR season.

        We need to see the BEST 53-man Roster.

        TC is only three weeks away Packer fans.

        GO Packers !
        ** Since 2006 3 X Pro Pickem' Champion; 4 X Runner-Up and 3 X 3rd place.
        ** To download Jesus Loves Me ring tones, you'll need a cell phone mame
        ** If God doesn't fish, play poker or pull for " the Packers ", exactly what does HE do with his buds?
        ** Rather than love, money or fame - give me TRUTH: Henry D. Thoreau

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        • #5
          There are going to be struggles - no doubt about that.

          In time I think Colledge and Spitz will be okay... my biggest concern is with Wells. He performed okay against average/below average DT's, but was absolutely rag-dolled by some of the bigger DT's he faced.

          To me, Wells is a big concern. If he doesn't learn to anchor against the bigger DT's, Brett will be running for his life - and, heaving balls up for grabs.
          wist

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          • #6
            woodbuck, i really really appreciate all the articles you put on this site, thank you!
            Normal is an illusion. What is normal for the spider is chaos for the fly. -Morticia Addams

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            • #7
              Originally posted by Mazzin
              woodbuck, i really really appreciate all the articles you put on this site, thank you!
              It's my pleasure Mazzin and Thank You.
              ** Since 2006 3 X Pro Pickem' Champion; 4 X Runner-Up and 3 X 3rd place.
              ** To download Jesus Loves Me ring tones, you'll need a cell phone mame
              ** If God doesn't fish, play poker or pull for " the Packers ", exactly what does HE do with his buds?
              ** Rather than love, money or fame - give me TRUTH: Henry D. Thoreau

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              • #8
                I like that wells reminds me of bag of donughts I just hope they pick a line and STICK WITH IT!!!!!!! that is the biggest thing in the NFL at O line continuity
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                • #9
                  I think we all agree that whoever the starters are on the o-line they need to be in place early and get all the work as a unit. I wonder(and this may be stupid) if the new weight training system thats been installed will help a guy like Wells and some of the others that have been labeled as to small or lack strength?
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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by wist43
                    There are going to be struggles - no doubt about that.

                    In time I think Colledge and Spitz will be okay... my biggest concern is with Wells. He performed okay against average/below average DT's, but was absolutely rag-dolled by some of the bigger DT's he faced.

                    To me, Wells is a big concern. If he doesn't learn to anchor against the bigger DT's, Brett will be running for his life - and, heaving balls up for grabs.

                    Agree. Especially the part about Wells.
                    My house is in Georgia but Wisconsin is my home.

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                    • #11
                      That song "Stuck in the Middle with You" can never be the same again.

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                      • #12
                        Scary that I was thinking of that song as I was opening this thread.
                        "Greatness is not an act... but a habit.Greatness is not an act... but a habit." -Greg Jennings

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by Harlan Huckleby
                          That song "Stuck in the Middle with You" can never be the same again.

                          Mike Madsen's from Milwaukee. The car he drove in "Reservoir" was his sister's ride.

                          Wist, I watch the Oline every game. Whitticker got rag dolled a bunch. Klemm fell over his own feet so hard, I thought they were gonna beat him to death. Flanagan was hurt and had the worst season of his Packer career.
                          Scott Wells played hard every play. When they got him, he got 'em back the next play. He's a good hustling kid who busts it each snap. Wells rag dolled ? Uh-uh. He got bested, but held his own. I disagree with you, I think Wells will hold his own this season.

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                          • #14
                            I agree that Wells should be fine. He will benefit from being able to concentrate on Center, his natural position, rather that switching between Center and Guard, as he did last year.

                            I wouldn't anoint Spitz as a starter just yet. I think Coston, and possibly Lucier will make a push there. I know Spitz has the early lead, but we're not even to training camp yet. Things can change when the pads go on and the intensity picks up.
                            I can't run no more
                            With that lawless crowd
                            While the killers in high places
                            Say their prayers out loud
                            But they've summoned, they've summoned up
                            A thundercloud
                            They're going to hear from me - Leonard Cohen

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                            • #15
                              I don't doubt his effort, and he's got some ability. His greatest strength IMO, is his ability to block on the move.

                              That said, I too watch the OL a lot, and for my money, he got tossed around too much. Generally, these lapses happened in pass protection and against the bull rush. I saw enough of it for it to be a concern for me.

                              Hopefully, with another years experience and few more cups of sand in the bucket, he'll be able to anchor better this year.
                              wist

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