Silverstein: Packers reach agreement with Dom Capers as DC

[PlantPage55]

True, but it would be MM in this case. TT isn't making the hire, after all.

[rbaloha1]

True, but it would be MM in this case. TT isn't making the hire, after all.

TT still must approve. Probably Mark Murphy as well but he most likely rubber stamps.

[pbmax]

What exactly is your (rbaloha) definition of outfoxed?

On Saturday night, TT went to bed thinking RM was a Packer. Sunday morning TT discovered RM was a Patriot.

If Capers left GB without a deal more than likely a similar scenario occurs.

That would be the definition of outbid. Outfoxed would be if Thompson was willing to give up a third, thought he could get away with a fourth, and then lost the player. Given you have no evidence of this, I think outfoxed is the wrong description.

[Patler]

What exactly is your (rbaloha) definition of outfoxed?

On Saturday night, TT went to bed thinking RM was a Packer. Sunday morning TT discovered RM was a Patriot.

If Capers left GB without a deal more than likely a similar scenario occurs.

If TT had made his "best offer" for Moss, went to bed thinking he had him, and woke up to find out he had been outbid, he was not "outfoxed" at all. He was simply outbid. Personally, I question whether or not Moss would have agreed to come to GB, in view of the uncertainty about the QB position at the time. Favre was a very short timer at best; Rodgers was very "iffy" at the time. McCarthy was certainly not established. After the mess in Oakland, do you really think Moss was interested in GB? I don't, especially with NE, Tom Brady and Bill B. being in the picture.

Besides, according to his agent and every other report I have seen, Capers did leave GB without a contract. According to further reports, he would sign a contract some time today. So I guess the Packers went to bed last night thinking they had Capers, without anything being certain, not unlike when they thought they had completed the negotiation for Moss..

[Patler]

If Capers changes his mind before actually signing the contract, and decides to go interview with the Giants instead, would the Packers be "outfoxed"? I don't think so.

[rbaloha1]

What exactly is your (rbaloha) definition of outfoxed?

On Saturday night, TT went to bed thinking RM was a Packer. Sunday morning TT discovered RM was a Patriot.

If Capers left GB without a deal more than likely a similar scenario occurs.

That would be the definition of outbid. Outfoxed would be if Thompson was willing to give up a third, thought he could get away with a fourth, and then lost the player. Given you have no evidence of this, I think outfoxed is the wrong description.

You can view as outbid. TT lowballed and got burnt. Should have had a first right of refusal.

[pbmax]

What exactly is your (rbaloha) definition of outfoxed?

On Saturday night, TT went to bed thinking RM was a Packer. Sunday morning TT discovered RM was a Patriot.

If Capers left GB without a deal more than likely a similar scenario occurs.

That would be the definition of outbid. Outfoxed would be if Thompson was willing to give up a third, thought he could get away with a fourth, and then lost the player. Given you have no evidence of this, I think outfoxed is the wrong description.

You can view as outbid. TT lowballed and got burnt. Should have had a first right of refusal.

You do not know that T2 lowballed, because you have no idea whether he was willing to give up a 3rd.

[rbaloha1]

If Capers changes his mind before actually signing the contract, and decides to go interview with the Giants instead, would the Packers be "outfoxed"? I don't think so.

No. Changing his mind is one thing.

The point is you want to make an offer BEFORE CAPERS INTERVIEWS WITH ANOTHER TEAM.

He left without a signed contract but maybe there an agreement in principal with minor details to be worked out.

Be it as it may, Packer managemet got it done and should be commended.

BRAVO!

[rbaloha1]

What exactly is your (rbaloha) definition of outfoxed?

On Saturday night, TT went to bed thinking RM was a Packer. Sunday morning TT discovered RM was a Patriot.

If Capers left GB without a deal more than likely a similar scenario occurs.

That would be the definition of outbid. Outfoxed would be if Thompson was willing to give up a third, thought he could get away with a fourth, and then lost the player. Given you have no evidence of this, I think outfoxed is the wrong description.

You can view as outbid. TT lowballed and got burnt. Should have had a first right of refusal.

You do not know that T2 lowballed, because you have no idea whether he was willing to give up a 3rd.

TT's initial low balling allowed another team to steal Moss.

Obviously in the Capers situation the same thing did not occur.

[gbgary]

Capers? Cool. Now if we could just sign Kevin Greene, Greg Lloyd, Rod Woodson, Levon Kirkland and Hardy Nickerson.

didn't we actually have him at one point?

[Zool]

Why do we have to have this Randy Moss discussion every couple months.

Randy Moss said the day after the trade "the only team I would redo my contract for was the Patriots". What do you think that means? The Raiders used the Packers to get what they could out of the Patriots.

[Patler]

If Capers changes his mind before actually signing the contract, and decides to go interview with the Giants instead, would the Packers be "outfoxed"? I don't think so.

No. Changing his mind is one thing.

The point is you want to make an offer BEFORE CAPERS INTERVIEWS WITH ANOTHER TEAM.

He left without a signed contract but maybe there an agreement in principal with minor details to be worked out.

Be it as it may, Packer managemet got it done and should be commended.

BRAVO!

From what I heard, the Packers had an "agreement in principle" for Moss, with just the paperwork to be completed when the league office opened the next day. How was that any different from the situation with Capers? Apparently, Oakland/Moss changed their minds.

[cpk1994]

Capers? Cool. Now if we could just sign Kevin Greene, Greg Lloyd, Rod Woodson, Levon Kirkland and Hardy Nickerson.

didn't we actually have him at one point?

Indeed. That was the cherry on the FA sundae for SHerman after his prized Joe Johnson aquisition.

[gbgary]

Capers? Cool. Now if we could just sign Kevin Greene, Greg Lloyd, Rod Woodson, Levon Kirkland and Hardy Nickerson.

didn't we actually have him at one point?

Indeed. That was the cherry on the FA sundae for SHerman after his prized Joe Johnson aquisition.

[Patler]

Capers? Cool. Now if we could just sign Kevin Greene, Greg Lloyd, Rod Woodson, Levon Kirkland and Hardy Nickerson.

didn't we actually have him at one point?

Indeed. That was the cherry on the FA sundae for SHerman after his prized Joe Johnson aquisition.

Sherman did land those former Pro Bowl players just a tad bit too late in their careers, didn't he??