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    Harris another spoiled athlete

    "I've got to do what's best for my family". That is the reason Al Harris is contemplating holding out of training camp next month, even though he was paid over eight million dollars the last two seasons. As you can see, this man is starving to death. Those poor kids might actually have to work sometime in their life. His poor wife might not be able to spend ten grand a month too much longer if Harris has to keep paying for the mere pittance the Packers are paying him.

    I know one thing, I am getting sick and tired of these overpaid athletes and their selfish demands. I know one other thing, if the Packers don't put an end to this crap publicly, it is going to keep coming up and the media will keep ripping the team. All the Packers have to do is state their case and the Packers fans will band behind them like never before. Please, take a stand Mr. Ted Thompson.

    Thompson has already shown a weak spot when he gave in to wide receiver Javon Walker, who unlike Harris, actually made a Pro Bowl, and traded him to Denver. Granted, a second-round pick is probably worth losing a health risk and locker room problem, but giving in to Harris would be the last straw.

    Harris has been overrated and overpaid ever since he came to Green Bay after being a backup for four years in Philly. He's just a guy, no more, no less. The Packers can start Charles Woodson and Ahmad Carroll and not miss a beat. The secondary is one of the deepest positions on the Packers' roster and if Harris holds out of training camp he ought to be immediately demoted to third or fourth string.

    Harris' agent claims "we'll be in training camp," but agents are a dime a dozen and Harris could easily replace Jack Bechta, his current agent between now and the training camp. Even if he shows up for training camp, his teammates will know that is contract is more important than practicing with the team and working on getting better and win a Super Bowl. All Harris wants is the almighty dollar, pure and simple.

    This team and this management are walking a fine line. You didn't hear anyone other than Sterling Sharpe holding out under the reign of Ron Wolf and Mike Holmgren. This is looking more and more like the Forrest Gregg, Lindy Infante years, and its Thompson's responsibility to change it. The pressure is on. Head coach Mike McCarthy has no idea of what he is up against. If the Packers are losers this year, the you-know-what will really hit the fan. Like Ray Rhodes, it could be one and done.

    By Al Davis
    ** Since 2006 3 X Pro Pickem' Champion; 4 X Runner-Up and 3 X 3rd place.
    ** To download Jesus Loves Me ring tones, you'll need a cell phone mame
    ** If God doesn't fish, play poker or pull for " the Packers ", exactly what does HE do with his buds?
    ** Rather than love, money or fame - give me TRUTH: Henry D. Thoreau

  • #2
    Lombardi Said It...

    " The differences between a successful person and others is not a lack of strength, not a lack of knowledge, but rather a lack of will."

    I hope that Al Harris will be in TC and giving the Packers all he can.Then I feel he is making the best statement, to attain more for his Family and himself.

    That can only arrive after recognition of his needs to deliver as OUR left CB. Bottom line - Al Harris has to play well to be possibly payed more. He can't be threatening a hold out or an absence from TC.

    Any question of tradeing him must be carefully weighed for us in the long term by Ted Thompson. Hard line stances are a lose - lose proposition, as a general rule of thumb.
    ** Since 2006 3 X Pro Pickem' Champion; 4 X Runner-Up and 3 X 3rd place.
    ** To download Jesus Loves Me ring tones, you'll need a cell phone mame
    ** If God doesn't fish, play poker or pull for " the Packers ", exactly what does HE do with his buds?
    ** Rather than love, money or fame - give me TRUTH: Henry D. Thoreau

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    • #3
      How do you stop this? If you give in to the player and either renegotiate or trade him, you lose. If you take a hard line and refuse to give into the player's demands you end up with a cancer in your locker room and you lose.

      How do you stop this? Does anyone have any idea? Can the NFL do anything to keep players from pulling this shit!? What are other teams doing. Crap, this is three players crying "pay me or trade me" in the last three years!
      My house is in Georgia but Wisconsin is my home.

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      • #4
        I may be oversimplifying -

        The way to stop it is to stop giving in.

        1.If the player holds out then he is in breech of contract and can be benched. Make him sit.

        2.Do evertything that you legally can as an organization to make his life miserable.

        3.Dock his pay.

        4.Demote him to 3rd string or even the practice squad if possible.

        5.Then allocate him to the NFLE next season.

        6.Use the power of the press to "leak" any info or stories of the cancerous behavior and it's negative effects on the team if that behavior is present.

        The real question is how do you keep a guy out the locker room? Can a player in breech of contract be "withheld" from the lockerroom? Didn't Philly do that to T.O.?
        "Everyone's born anarchist and atheist until people start lying to them" ~ wise philosopher

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        • #5
          7.Move his locker to the "green mile"

          8.Call him frequently to make sure that "everything is OK".

          9.Limit his exposure to the press on his terms

          10.Repeat.
          "Everyone's born anarchist and atheist until people start lying to them" ~ wise philosopher

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          • #6
            I don't think they can ban him from the locker room, but if he holds out camp, they can demand part of his signing bonus back.
            "Greatness is not an act... but a habit.Greatness is not an act... but a habit." -Greg Jennings

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            • #7
              Well, that wouldn't be good for his family.
              I believe in God, family, Baylor University, and the Green Bay Packers.

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              • #8
                Originally posted by CaptainKickass
                7.Move his locker to the "green mile"

                8.Call him frequently to make sure that "everything is OK".

                9.Limit his exposure to the press on his terms

                10.Repeat.

                The problem is that his cancerous attitude can spread from sitting on the bench as easy as it does if he is in the locker room. The coaches can't watch him all the time. All he has to do is get around his "mates" and whisper about how bad the organization is treating him, how he isn't being appreciated, how they should watch because its going to be them next. He start a seed of doubt, a seed of mistrust in other player's minds - younger players that are still learning what the NFL is all about - and you could end up with a full blown mutinty.

                I'm not saying this is going to happen but three players in three years is a warning that something is being done right. I'm also not saying you give in, all I'm saying is you have a problem either way and I don't see a solution.
                My house is in Georgia but Wisconsin is my home.

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                • #9
                  AH is too old to force a trade. And he is not going to be a cancer.

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by Harlan Huckleby
                    AH is too old to force a trade. And he is not going to be a cancer.
                    Your a wise but OLD man HH.
                    ** Since 2006 3 X Pro Pickem' Champion; 4 X Runner-Up and 3 X 3rd place.
                    ** To download Jesus Loves Me ring tones, you'll need a cell phone mame
                    ** If God doesn't fish, play poker or pull for " the Packers ", exactly what does HE do with his buds?
                    ** Rather than love, money or fame - give me TRUTH: Henry D. Thoreau

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                    • #11
                      Unfortunately we've set TWO bad examples in the past in giving in.

                      1 was Mike McKenzie. Now many of us (including me) thought we still had legit playoff talent so maybe you bit the bullet on that one and get rid of the locker room cancer.

                      2 was Javon Walker. Right now we don't have the talent to be serious playoff contenders. So he was the one to take the hard line with. Green Bay did not.

                      So Al Harris hasn't been here that long and he's witnessed the game work twice already. Sooner or later we need to stop giving in.
                      TERD Buckley over Troy Vincent, Robert Ferguson over Chris Chambers, Kevn King instead of TJ Watt, and now, RICH GANNON, over JIMMY JIMMY JIMMY LEONARD. Thank you FLOWER

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                      • #12
                        McKeinzie got a bad contract from NO. Walkers looks even worse.

                        All of them wanted more money and none of them have gotten it so far. I wouldn't say we gave in to anything.
                        Formerly known as JustinHarrell.

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by NickCollins
                          McKeinzie got a bad contract from NO. Walkers looks even worse.

                          All of them wanted more money and none of them have gotten it so far. I wouldn't say we gave in to anything.

                          YES we did Nick.

                          Both wanted out of Green Bay and were under a contract to play for a 2-3 more years.

                          We let them go elsewhere.
                          TERD Buckley over Troy Vincent, Robert Ferguson over Chris Chambers, Kevn King instead of TJ Watt, and now, RICH GANNON, over JIMMY JIMMY JIMMY LEONARD. Thank you FLOWER

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                          • #14
                            With Walker, I wanted them to watch him sit, but the deal was to our benefit.
                            "Greatness is not an act... but a habit.Greatness is not an act... but a habit." -Greg Jennings

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                            • #15
                              [quote="MJZiggy"]With Walker, I wanted them to watch him sit, but the deal was to our benefit.[/quote

                              Yea ! Too bad we had need all over or we could have watched him sit (till TC again) but then the risk of another injury was too great and that trade was all around prudent.

                              Javon Walker acted like a spoiled brat as that all transpired. Screw him.
                              ** Since 2006 3 X Pro Pickem' Champion; 4 X Runner-Up and 3 X 3rd place.
                              ** To download Jesus Loves Me ring tones, you'll need a cell phone mame
                              ** If God doesn't fish, play poker or pull for " the Packers ", exactly what does HE do with his buds?
                              ** Rather than love, money or fame - give me TRUTH: Henry D. Thoreau

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