Jim Bates becomes DC of Tampa Bay Bucs

[packers04]

interesting... not sure if they have the personnel to run his defense... but time will tell i guess.

[K-town]

Here's the Link:

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=3852499

[Waldo]

Re: Jim Bates becomes DC of Tampa Bay Bucs

interesting... not sure if they have the personnel to run his defense... but time will tell i guess.

Small DT's
Zone CB's

LOL

[vince]

Things are starting to look up for Bob Sanders...

[rbaloha1]

Things are starting to look up for Bob Sanders...

Good point. The ex Packer staff may have found a new home. Now the Packers can pay less for the buyouts.

[Harlan Huckleby]

Things are starting to look up for Bob Sanders...

I agree with Cliff Cristl's comments that defensive coordinators look good when they have good players. That's about 90% of the story, the scheme is just a marginal part of the outcome.

[Lurker64]

Re: Jim Bates becomes DC of Tampa Bay Bucs

interesting... not sure if they have the personnel to run his defense... but time will tell i guess.

Small DT's
Zone CB's

LOL

Yeah, if Bates is half as tied to his scheme as Sanders was, this has the potential to be a disaster if Bates just tries to implement the classic Bates 4-3 that Green Bay and Miami ran.

Still, it's foolish to assume that defensive coordinators are incompetent and will run schemes that don't work and are not suited to their personnel. Bates isn't dumb, he's just going to have trouble running the base defense he's well known for right out of the gate.

[KYPack]

Re: Jim Bates becomes DC of Tampa Bay Bucs

interesting... not sure if they have the personnel to run his defense... but time will tell i guess.

Small DT's
Zone CB's

LOL

Yeah, if Bates is half as tied to his scheme as Sanders was, this has the potential to be a disaster if Bates just tries to implement the classic Bates 4-3 that Green Bay and Miami ran.

Still, it's foolish to assume that defensive coordinators are incompetent and will run schemes that don't work and are not suited to their personnel. Bates isn't dumb, he's just going to have trouble running the base defense he's well known for right out of the gate.

That's the thing that drove me nuts about Sanders.

Didn't Bates teach him any other tricks?

He ran that basic shell into the derned ground!

[DonHutson]

Wasn't their new head coach a D assistant under Kiffin? Maybe they're asking Bates to adjust to their system as opposed to the other way around?

It's a curious hire...

[pbmax]

There is a feeling in the league that the Tampa 2 has been played out and countered. I have read this elsewhere regarding the changing of the defensive coaches for the Colts. They also point to the fact that the Bears don't even use their singular defense as much as Cover 1 anymore.

[KYPack]

There is a feeling in the league that the Tampa 2 has been played out and countered. I have read this elsewhere regarding the changing of the defensive coaches for the Colts. They also point to the fact that the Bears don't even use their singular defense as much as Cover 1 anymore.

Indy used cover 1 with a robber 80% of the time in their play-off game.

'Course the robber was Bob Sanders, where else would you put him.

[Iron Mike]

Re: Jim Bates becomes DC of Tampa Bay Bucs

Didn't Bates teach him any other tricks?

I think he was trying to avoid being called "Master."

[mraynrand]

There is a feeling in the league that the Tampa 2 has been played out and countered. I have read this elsewhere regarding the changing of the defensive coaches for the Colts. They also point to the fact that the Bears don't even use their singular defense as much as Cover 1 anymore.

Indy used cover 1 with a robber 80% of the time in their play-off game.

'Course the robber was Bob Sanders, where else would you put him.

I cover 1 with a rubber 100% of the time. It's the only way to be certain.

[KYPack]

There is a feeling in the league that the Tampa 2 has been played out and countered. I have read this elsewhere regarding the changing of the defensive coaches for the Colts. They also point to the fact that the Bears don't even use their singular defense as much as Cover 1 anymore.

Indy used cover 1 with a robber 80% of the time in their play-off game.

'Course the robber was Bob Sanders, where else would you put him.

I cover 1 with a rubber 100% of the time. It's the only way to be certain.

It's robber, not rubber, you idiot!








Good one, MRD

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