Official Super Bowl Thread?!

[Partial]

I didn't read through the game thread, but is it safe to assume Partial placed the blame for this loss solely on the shoulders of Warner and the Cardinal offense? After all, if they had scored more than a measly 23 points, the defense never would have been in the precarious position of being expected to hold a lead with 2.5 minutes left.

See... this is where you come off as a jag..

Fact: The Texans were the 22nd ranked defense.
Fact: The Jaguars were the 17th ranked defense.
Fact: The Vikings were the 6th ranked defense.
Fact: The Titans were the 7th ranked defense.

In all of those games, are offensive performances were terrible.

Fact: Against Tennessee.. We scored one touchdown. The Cardinals scored 3 against a far superior defense.

Fact: Against Minnesota, we scored one offensive touchdown right away and couldn't get anything going for the rest of the game. We stayed in the game based on defensive touchdowns and special teams. The Cardinals scored 3 touchdowns against a far superior defense.

Fact: Against Houston, we put up 3 touchdowns. They are one of the very worst defenses in the league, and we were supposed to be one of the dominant offensively. To contrast, The Cardinals scored 3 against a far superior defense.

Fact: Against Jacksonville, we scored 1 touchdown. They are a below average defense. To contrast, The Cardinals scored 3 against a far superior defense.

I'm not seeing the correlation in your argument. I don't think we would have put up anywhere near the offensive performance that the Cards did against the Steelers. We would have been blown out.

I don't blame the offense for the Cardinals because they put up 23 points against the #1 defense in the league... Not the 22nd or 17th.. (where we scored less).

IMO, That is a pretty successful offensive day against the #1 ranked defense, where putting up 16 and 20 points against the 22nd and 17th ranked defenses is a poor offensive day. Can't really complain about the 23 points, and you certainly cannot compare the Packers struggling offensively against by in large average defenses to the Cardinals playing the far and away premiere defense of the NFL.

[SkinBasket]

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Boring.

[cpk1994]

blah blah blah blah blah

Boring.

But yoiu have to give him credit for changing his arguement every time he gets owned and his stick-to-it-ness.

[Bossman641]

I'm just messing Partial. We've gone over this enough. You have your beliefs, I have mine. I didn't mean to rehash an argument, I just wanted to see if you still were willing to let defenses off the hook based on the offense's performance or if you expected the D to make a stop at the end of the game.

[Freak Out]

Did they review that fumble at the end of the game? I can't remember and it sure looked like he was throwing? It seems they made the decision pretty damn fast.

[Partial]

It was mentioned by the announcers they went under the hood, reviewed quick, and then came back.

It was a fumble in my opinion. Ball was out before the arm came forward.

[Bossman641]

Did they review that fumble at the end of the game? I can't remember and it sure looked like he was throwing? It seems they made the decision pretty damn fast.

No they didn't review it and I feel the same way. At the very least I thought they would have reviewed it. With Fitzgerald out there, who knows.

[Freak Out]

It was close....that's for sure....but I thought it odd that Pitt was on the field so fast and was able to get the ball snapped. Look at it and make sure....it's the damn SB.

But it wasn't the Packers so screw it.

[red]

they didn't review it, but the officials upstairs had plenty of time to take a look at it and decide whether they needed to take a closer look.

the officials upstairs were the ones to make the call, i guess they decided it wasn't close enough to take any make time

[Guiness]

I think it was the right decision not to review it.

It was up to the booth to decide if they wanted to review it. They had plenty of time to take a quick look at it, and decide it wasn't close. Any delays would just have led to an anti-climatic ending to a great game.

[pack4to84]

I felt like I was watching a Packer game the way the game finished. Warner drives the team down for a TD and the lead. Only to have the defense get it up in under 2 minutes.

[GBRulz]

What is this LeBron chalk move that Holmes did that people are bitching about now? Apparently, he used the football as a prop, which is a 15 yard penalty on the kick-off, that was never enforced.

Call me dumb, but I care about the NBA as much as I care about NASCAR, but what exactly is this chalk move?

[Cheesehead Craig]

What is this LeBron chalk move that Holmes did that people are bitching about now? Apparently, he used the football as a prop, which is a 15 yard penalty on the kick-off, that was never enforced.

Call me dumb, but I care about the NBA as much as I care about NASCAR, but what exactly is this chalk move?

I remember KG doing this where he puts a ton of chalk on his hands by the scorers table, then claps his hands and gets the guys there all covered with it.

LeBron has decided to do the same except he now throws it up in the air like a mushroom cloud because he simply doesn't have enough attention still.

[Bossman641]

Is that what Holmes was supposed to be doing? I couldn't figure out what that was.

[oregonpackfan]

I didn't read through the game thread, but is it safe to assume Partial placed the blame for this loss solely on the shoulders of Warner and the Cardinal offense? After all, if they had scored more than a measly 23 points, the defense never would have been in the precarious position of being expected to hold a lead with 2.5 minutes left.

Why not? Warner threw an INT that was returned for a TD. That was a ten, possibly 14 point turn around. That they stayed in the game following that was remarkable. The number of teams that win following an INT returned for TD is somewhere around 10% or less, if I remember correctly. It was a devastating mistake.

That was a 14 point turnaround and perhaps the biggest defensive play in the history of the Super Bowl.

I would not necessarily call it a mistake by Warner. If you recall, Harrison was faking a blitz. Instead of blitzing, he retreated a couple of steps. He got himself in position for a quick slant-in pass to the receiver(Fitzgerald?). Had Harrison blitzed, the pass probably would have been completed for a touchdown.