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  • #16
    Originally posted by DonHutson
    Agree on Brace, but for what it's worth the new McShay mock draft has Jacksonville snagging him two picks in front of us in the 2nd.

    What's plan C? I don't see much in FA at NT unless I'm missing someone.
    Here's a mid round guy I'd like to see. Nothing flashy just a solid durable 3 year starter. He'll probably be drafted before his stats would dictate because the DT class is pretty weak. Best of all he carries no academic or injury baggage.

    Terrence Taylor NT 6-1/2 319 Michigan - A 3rd round prospect that would fit nicely in the 3-4 scheme. Taylor is a classic nose tackle. He is built low to the ground with a wide base, and is very difficult to move off the line of scrimmage. His thick build and natural strength allow him to hold his ground and clog running lanes. Taylor does supply some penetration ability because he does have some quickness. He comes off the snap quick, and once he is moving upfield he is difficult to stop because of his power and momentum he has built up. All he does is get down and dirty and does his job well.
    "I'd rather see the players' wives playing beach volleyball for Jello-shots in Honolulu between the division championships and the Super Bowl." Swede

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    • #17



      Taylor is certainly a possibility if the Packers miss out on Raji.
      I can't run no more
      With that lawless crowd
      While the killers in high places
      Say their prayers out loud
      But they've summoned, they've summoned up
      A thundercloud
      They're going to hear from me - Leonard Cohen

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      • #18
        Originally posted by Joemailman
        Boston College was an average team because they were #94 in total offense. They were #8 in total defense, and #10 against the run.
        The Texas Longhorns had Casey Hampton and Shaun Rodgers as starting DTs and OK. put 40, and 50 points on them. Team Stats aren't everything when you look at individual players.
        Been there done that!

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        • #19
          ISn't every team on the lookout for a good NT?

          Big defensive lineman that are any good are scarce.

          That's why JH are Cole have value. Look at all the big guys who wash out of the defensive line.

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          • #20
            Originally posted by privatepacker
            Originally posted by Joemailman
            Boston College was an average team because they were #94 in total offense. They were #8 in total defense, and #10 against the run.
            The Texas Longhorns had Casey Hampton and Shaun Rodgers as starting DTs and OK. put 40, and 50 points on them. Team Stats aren't everything when you look at individual players.
            No, but team stats for a full season tell more than those from one game. Plus, I've never seen a good run defense that didn't have strong players in the middle.
            I can't run no more
            With that lawless crowd
            While the killers in high places
            Say their prayers out loud
            But they've summoned, they've summoned up
            A thundercloud
            They're going to hear from me - Leonard Cohen

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            • #21
              Personally, I'd have no trouble with the Pack parting with the #3 they received from the Jets to move up a few slots to grab B.J.
              After stocking up on picks to fill out depth the last few years, it's now time to grab a guy (if he is indeed 'the guy' in Packer's eyes) who can be a true difference maker.
              Who Knows? The Shadow knows!

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              • #22
                Originally posted by Joemailman
                Originally posted by privatepacker
                Originally posted by Joemailman
                Boston College was an average team because they were #94 in total offense. They were #8 in total defense, and #10 against the run.
                The Texas Longhorns had Casey Hampton and Shaun Rodgers as starting DTs and OK. put 40, and 50 points on them. Team Stats aren't everything when you look at individual players.
                No, but team stats for a full season tell more than those from one game. Plus, I've never seen a good run defense that didn't have strong players in the middle.
                Also "we had the #93 ranked offense in the country" is a fairly solid reason for why a team wasn't wildly successful (though they did win their division) despite having some very good defensive players.
                </delurk>

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                • #23
                  god damn shaun cody, why the hell didn't he come out? its not like he gets good grades.

                  he's not good at school

                  if he had come out then one of him or raji would have been there at #9

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                  • #24
                    All this talk about plan B and C makes me sick, to be honest. We have extra ammo in this years draft, having an extra 3rd and an extra 6th. Package the extra 3rd and, if need be, our extra 6th with our #9 to move up into the top 5 and get Raji. Make plan A work. Do it.
                    Chuck Norris doesn't cut his grass, he just stares at it and dares it to grow

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                    • #25
                      Raji is legit.

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                      • #26
                        Originally posted by Gunakor
                        All this talk about plan B and C makes me sick, to be honest. We have extra ammo in this years draft, having an extra 3rd and an extra 6th. Package the extra 3rd and, if need be, our extra 6th with our #9 to move up into the top 5 and get Raji. Make plan A work. Do it.
                        To move up to #5 from #9 it would take our second (#5 and a 4th for #9 and #41) or both of our 3rds.

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                        • #27
                          Originally posted by Waldo
                          Originally posted by Gunakor
                          All this talk about plan B and C makes me sick, to be honest. We have extra ammo in this years draft, having an extra 3rd and an extra 6th. Package the extra 3rd and, if need be, our extra 6th with our #9 to move up into the top 5 and get Raji. Make plan A work. Do it.
                          To move up to #5 from #9 it would take our second (#5 and a 4th for #9 and #41) or both of our 3rds.
                          I'd happily trade both of our 3rds if that's what it took. What do you absolutely need to have to run an effective 3-4? A good NT. What is Raji?

                          Besides, Teddy could always trade down in the second to get back into the third if he wanted to anyway.

                          Make it happen!
                          Chuck Norris doesn't cut his grass, he just stares at it and dares it to grow

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                          • #28
                            Obviously you've got to wait and see how it plays out. If Raji does well at the combine, he might be long gone by #5, and there's no way for TT to move up much farther unless he pulls a Mike Ditka and trades his whole draft away.

                            However, if Raji is still sitting there at, say, #6, it might be tempting. But let's not get too caught up in the whole we-hav- tohave-that-guy thing. Sometimes we forget that the vast majority of us don't know jack about anything coming after maybe - maybe - the third round. So we tend to focus on the "sexy" picks - the first rounders we read about. For all we know, TT has got an eye on some big ol' kid from Montgomery State Bible College and Cooking Institute.

                            So let's not get too mad if TT doesn't just trade up to get the "name" guy.

                            And if he does, well, then he for sure must like the guy.
                            "The Devine era is actually worse than you remember if you go back and look at it."

                            KYPack

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                            • #29
                              Refresh my memory--can anyone name a trade up of a couple of spots in the first round that worked out for ANYONE? I guess Denver did OK on the Cutler trade, but I don't remember how far they moved up.

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                              • #30
                                Originally posted by packrat
                                Refresh my memory--can anyone name a trade up of a couple of spots in the first round that worked out for ANYONE? I guess Denver did OK on the Cutler trade, but I don't remember how far they moved up.
                                The Packers used Matt H. to trade up the the first (the equivalent of a 2nd round pick) to snag Jamal Reynolds. Awesome trade.

                                Denver gave #15 and #68 to trade up to #11 to grab Cutler.

                                Jacksonville gave Baltimore #26, #71, #89, #125 for #8 to get Harvey, not the best looking trade right now, Baltimore turned around gave #26, #89, and #173 to Houston for #18 to get Joe Flacco, a good trade. In the end though Baltimore gave #8 and #173 for Joe Flacco, #71, and #125. They traded #125 to Oakland for Fabian Washington.

                                I think the Browns are happy with the trade that netted Brady Quinn. In the same draft the Jets traded up about 10 spots to grab Revis.

                                Generally the first round trade ups to grab a QB are the ones that work the best. If one of the first round QB's falls, we are in a prime spot to trade our pick since SF (#10) is seen as a landing point for one of them.

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