Favre plans to retire!

[cpk1994]

Wait a minute...the Jets would owe the Pack a #1 pick if they traded him to an NFC North team this year. But what if he retires and later decides to come back? If the Jets then cut him - after all, by May they'll have his salary re-spent on other players mostl likely - he can sign on with anyone, right?

Hard not to notice the part of the article in which Butt Cook apparently asked the Jets "informally" if they'd consider releasing him...

I would think that part or all of his salary is guaranteed if he's on the Jets roster after a certain timeframe. If he decides to come back after that point and they cut him, they would still be on the hook for his salary putting them over the cap with dead money. Their only choice if he comes back late is a trade.

This right here should stop the "Favre to Minnesota" speculation dead.

Some mis-information here. Yes, it is true that the Jets own his rights and would have to release him in order for him to have the freedom to sign with anyone.

However, if he decides to come back, lets say, two weeks before the start of the season, then he tells the Jets he wants to be removed from the reserve/retired list. At that point, the Jets have a decision. They can do one of 4 things: 1 - persuade him to stay retired, 2 - trade him, 3 - activate him and absorb the cap hit, or 4 - release him.

The only instance where the salary becomes "guaranteed" by the Jets is #3. The salary becomes "guaranteed" in #2 by the new club that trades for him on the 1st day of the season.

The most important point, is that the Jets can avoid cap troubles by releasing him outright when he asks for reinstatement ( choice #4). Thats one of the options they have BEFORE there are any salary guarantees.

Oh, and somewhere else somebody stated that the Jets can "squat on his rights" until the contract expires is not exactly accurate. If he doesn't come back to play, that contract never "expires" right now it's on "hold". We saw that about 5 years ago when Deion Sanders was going to come back to play for Oakland when they went to the Super Bowl. Washington (I think) had to release him first, and then San Diego claimed him to prevent him from going to Oakland.

Thanks for the clarification.

EDIT: I thought I'd point out that once again, ESPN is perpetuating the myth that the Packers pressured Favre into a decision. Ed Werder was on OTL today and said that he believes Favre is retiring for good becuase "He wasn't pressured this time." Nice to see ESPN is all for reporting facts.

[Guiness]

Thanks for the clarification.

What a fricken mess. Only good thing is that it's not our mess this year.

[MadtownPacker]

I can't believe the Jets made him make a decision so early....those bastards.

Really?? Does the make this forum A better place?? Or maybe you are no better than say pacopete with this shit?

Mad, I'm pretty sure that was meant in jest...I know I mentally inserted the [/sarcasm] tag there.

Yes, I'm tired of BF getting dragged into every thread too...but this was a thread about him.

Maybe but it aint the first time Bobble has made little similiar comments. I truly hope Favre stays retired and all this shit is put to rest.

[BallHawk]

The sad thing about this is that I truly don't care.

Yeah. Brett Favre, arguably the greatest QB in Packer history is retiring, and I really don't care about it.

Never thought I'd say those words, but that's how it is.

[sheepshead]

The sad thing about this is that I truly don't care.

Yeah. Brett Favre, arguably the greatest QB in Packer history is retiring, and I really don't care about it.

Never thought I'd say those words, but that's how it is.

Funny, we don't care that you don't care.

[PaCkFan_n_MD]

The sad thing about this is that I truly don't care.

Yeah. Brett Favre, arguably the greatest QB in Packer history is retiring, and I really don't care about it.

Never thought I'd say those words, but that's how it is.

Funny, we don't care that you don't care.

I don't think he cares that you don't care that he doesn't care.

[Lurker64]

I care.

[sheepshead]

I wonder if Brett cares if we care?

[Lurker64]

The Packers just issued A Statement

Congratulations to Brett on a remarkable career. The Packers organization wishes him and his family well. Brett always will hold a special place in Green Bay Packers history, and we remain committed to retiring his number at an appropriate time in the future.

I wonder how long it will be until the Packers can convince Favre to show up at Lambeau so they can retire his number.

[sheepshead]

So.....


What if Rodgers goes down for the year in week 7 and were 5-2???


(Que Jeopardy music)

[gex]

Trent Dillfer on ESPN just now, commenting on Brett Favre, said he may not be the best QB to have played the game, but in his opinion, he was the greatest football player to have played.
I thought that was nice.

That's what people in the know think as well, but those who are arm chair quarterbacks (and bad ones at that) seem to disagree (CPK, etc).

With that said, football got a little less fun today. I know half of you are all blind haters, but Brett Favre is the best thing to happen to the Packers ever. He saved them from mediocrity, brought them annual success, etc. We've already witnessed how a championship caliber team can fall apart without a strong quarterback. Hopefully we find out next Brett Favre within the next couple of years.

I wish him well and respect the hell out of him. He is a truly special football player who should have been allowed to go out with the Packers on his own terms.

Nice post P. Thats how many people feel up here.
We will miss your antics on the field Brett

[Zool]

Wait a minute...the Jets would owe the Pack a #1 pick if they traded him to an NFC North team this year. But what if he retires and later decides to come back? If the Jets then cut him - after all, by May they'll have his salary re-spent on other players mostl likely - he can sign on with anyone, right?

Hard not to notice the part of the article in which Butt Cook apparently asked the Jets "informally" if they'd consider releasing him...

I would think that part or all of his salary is guaranteed if he's on the Jets roster after a certain timeframe. If he decides to come back after that point and they cut him, they would still be on the hook for his salary putting them over the cap with dead money. Their only choice if he comes back late is a trade.

This right here should stop the "Favre to Minnesota" speculation dead.

Some mis-information here. Yes, it is true that the Jets own his rights and would have to release him in order for him to have the freedom to sign with anyone.

However, if he decides to come back, lets say, two weeks before the start of the season, then he tells the Jets he wants to be removed from the reserve/retired list. At that point, the Jets have a decision. They can do one of 4 things: 1 - persuade him to stay retired, 2 - trade him, 3 - activate him and absorb the cap hit, or 4 - release him.

The only instance where the salary becomes "guaranteed" by the Jets is #3. The salary becomes "guaranteed" in #2 by the new club that trades for him on the 1st day of the season.

The most important point, is that the Jets can avoid cap troubles by releasing him outright when he asks for reinstatement ( choice #4). Thats one of the options they have BEFORE there are any salary guarantees.

Oh, and somewhere else somebody stated that the Jets can "squat on his rights" until the contract expires is not exactly accurate. If he doesn't come back to play, that contract never "expires" right now it's on "hold". We saw that about 5 years ago when Deion Sanders was going to come back to play for Oakland when they went to the Super Bowl. Washington (I think) had to release him first, and then San Diego claimed him to prevent him from going to Oakland.

So none of Favre's pro-rated signing bonus would be saddled to the Jets if they release him? If he's not retired, his bonus is guaranteed. I guess that would be in the realm of $1.5mil x2 for the last 2 years of the deal. If I remember correctly, that gets pushed forward to next season if its after August something?

Edit: Bonus was $10mil for 10 years. So max he could cost the Jets this season on a release would be $2mil if I'm not mistaken. Anyone have a page with their actual cap # right now?

[Patler]

I must be getting old. The mind plays tricks on you when you do get old.
I could of sworn that Favre already retired!

Then, again, I thought Michael Jordan had retired too, but that was my mind playing tricks on me too, because he kept playing. That happened over and over again, like a recurring dream. I thought he retired. He kept playing.

But maybe it isn't age. Years ago, when I was less of an old codger than I am now, I thought Reggie White retired, but the next year he was back with the Packers. Then I thought he retired again, and he showed up in Carolina.

I worry some times. Is old Patler losing his mind????

[Zool]

Well according to http://www.nyjetscap.com/salary.html he is owed no pro-rated signing bonus so cutting him is a very viable(and likely) option if he decides to come back.

[Guiness]

I must be getting old. The mind plays tricks on you when you do get old.
I could of sworn that Favre already retired!

Then, again, I thought Michael Jordan had retired too, but that was my mind playing tricks on me too, because he kept playing. That happened over and over again, like a recurring dream. I thought he retired. He kept playing.

But maybe it isn't age. Years ago, when I was less of an old codger than I am now, I thought Reggie White retired, but the next year he was back with the Packers. Then I thought he retired again, and he showed up in Carolina.

I worry some times. Is old Patler losing his mind????

There was this baseball manager - for the Yankees. Billy Martin. Kept getting fired, kept showing up for work. You'd hear he was fired, then you'd see him back in the dugout. Strangest thing.