Did Hawk blitz much at Ohio State?
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I don't really know. I don't think Ohio State blitzed much in general.Originally posted by Freak OutDid Hawk blitz much at Ohio State?
I said Hawk at "Jack" and Barnett at "Mike" because of Barnett being the better at tracking down RBs all over the field and in pass coverage. Also, Hawk probably is a little bigger and better at playing off blockers.What could be more GOOD and NORMAL and AMERICAN than Packer Football?
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unless we bring in a high draft pick or a free agent to play that other OLB, then i think the spot will be up for grabs in preseason
and i think we'll have some good competition for it. i still think it might be a great spot for pop. he was a pass rushing DE and a olb in college. semms like it would be a good spot for him. chillar is an option, but he strikes be as more of a cover guy, not a pass rusher, am i wrong in thinking that? and maybe thompson surprises us.
we'll see what the coaches think of those guys in a month or two when the draft rolls around. if we take a LB in the first two rounds, then we know that they think those other guys won't cut it
and i do agree that barnett and hawk are the locks inside. unless we somehow grab ray lewis or draft luga.
then who the hell knows what we would look like
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That is a good question. I think that because of how good he was in coverage I never really thought of him as a good at blitzing or strong at the point of attack. Here was a scouting report of him coming out out UCLA.Originally posted by redchillar is an option, but he strikes be as more of a cover guy, not a pass rusher, am i wrong in thinking that?
possesses fine speed and is a student of the game. He is tough and aggressive at the point of attack, yet he can also play well in space and has great change of direction, enabling him to cover well
I for one am not going to count the guy out, I think he may surprise us all.
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Sorry Texas...my comment had nothing to do with what you posted....I never watch Ohio State so I had no idea how he was even used there. I don't remember him being very effective at blitzing when he was tasked with it here in GB but could be wrong.Originally posted by texaspackerbackerI don't really know. I don't think Ohio State blitzed much in general.Originally posted by Freak OutDid Hawk blitz much at Ohio State?
I said Hawk at "Jack" and Barnett at "Mike" because of Barnett being the better at tracking down RBs all over the field and in pass coverage. Also, Hawk probably is a little bigger and better at playing off blockers.C.H.U.D.
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Someone posted this in another forum, but I thought this might interest you guys, JT's combine #'s:
Jeremy Thompson
10 yard-1.53
Shuttle-4.23
3 cone-6.97
Adrian Peterson
10 yard-1.53
Shuttle-4.4
3 cone-7.09
Vernon Gholston
10 yard-1.53
Shuttle-4.4
3 cone-7.12
Patrick Willis
10 yard-1.52
Shuttle-4.37
3 cone-7.10
Ernie Sims
10 yard-1.54
Shuttle-4.23
3 cone-7.32
The kid is a freak athlete. His potential at OLB is off the charts. He ran the 4th fastest 10 yd split that a DE has ever run at the combine, the 22nd fastest SS that a DE has ever run, and the 11th fasted 3 cone that a DE has ever run. His arms are downright ape like at 35 3/8", most pass rushers are around 33", almost nobody has arms as long as him.
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Tim Harris like arms? Nice.Originally posted by WaldoSomeone posted this in another forum, but I thought this might interest you guys, JT's combine #'s:
Jeremy Thompson
10 yard-1.53
Shuttle-4.23
3 cone-6.97
Adrian Peterson
10 yard-1.53
Shuttle-4.4
3 cone-7.09
Vernon Gholston
10 yard-1.53
Shuttle-4.4
3 cone-7.12
Patrick Willis
10 yard-1.52
Shuttle-4.37
3 cone-7.10
Ernie Sims
10 yard-1.54
Shuttle-4.23
3 cone-7.32
The kid is a freak athlete. His potential at OLB is off the charts. He ran the 4th fastest 10 yd split that a DE has ever run at the combine, the 22nd fastest SS that a DE has ever run, and the 11th fasted 3 cone that a DE has ever run. His arms are downright ape like at 35 3/8", most pass rushers are around 33", almost nobody has arms as long as him.
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Is his brother still on the roster? I think it says something when TT will trade up to get you.Originally posted by WaldoSomeone posted this in another forum, but I thought this might interest you guys, JT's combine #'s:
Jeremy Thompson
10 yard-1.53
Shuttle-4.23
3 cone-6.97
Adrian Peterson
10 yard-1.53
Shuttle-4.4
3 cone-7.09
Vernon Gholston
10 yard-1.53
Shuttle-4.4
3 cone-7.12
Patrick Willis
10 yard-1.52
Shuttle-4.37
3 cone-7.10
Ernie Sims
10 yard-1.54
Shuttle-4.23
3 cone-7.32
The kid is a freak athlete. His potential at OLB is off the charts. He ran the 4th fastest 10 yd split that a DE has ever run at the combine, the 22nd fastest SS that a DE has ever run, and the 11th fasted 3 cone that a DE has ever run. His arms are downright ape like at 35 3/8", most pass rushers are around 33", almost nobody has arms as long as him.C.H.U.D.
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Thompson looked uncomfortable at end, especially on run downs. I watched him a lot in the Colts game, if I remember correctly. He really did seem to have good burst and outside leverage, but he let himself get locked up and then get pushed around - prob. mostly due to rookie inexperience. I suspect the coaches are salivating at the chance to mold this guy into a 3-4 OLB. The more I read about it, the more I think the Packers are in pretty good shape. I was really pessimistic about Kamp since his hand was in the ground for quite a few years, but you have me thinking otherwise.Originally posted by WaldoI'm just sayin'.......he might make a decent OLB. Freak athletes typically make good 3-4 OLB's, and he is definitely a freak athlete.
Kampman is too."Never, never ever support a punk like mraynrand. Rather be as I am and feel real sympathy for his sickness." - Woodbuck
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Except it takes a year or so to get to know them. TT seems to draft guys no casual fan has ever heard of. When he drafted Nick Collins in the second, I went "Who the F___ is that?"
Now I know."The Devine era is actually worse than you remember if you go back and look at it."
KYPack
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I know what you mean, MRD.Originally posted by mraynrandThompson looked uncomfortable at end, especially on run downs. I watched him a lot in the Colts game, if I remember correctly. He really did seem to have good burst and outside leverage, but he let himself get locked up and then get pushed around - prob. mostly due to rookie inexperience. I suspect the coaches are salivating at the chance to mold this guy into a 3-4 OLB. The more I read about it, the more I think the Packers are in pretty good shape. I was really pessimistic about Kamp since his hand was in the ground for quite a few years, but you have me thinking otherwise.Originally posted by WaldoI'm just sayin'.......he might make a decent OLB. Freak athletes typically make good 3-4 OLB's, and he is definitely a freak athlete.
Kampman is too.
I remember a play Thompson made at the end of the season (Don't remember the opponent, I am allowing last year to become a blur).
Thompson made a helluva play on ST. The returner got loose and was heading up the sidelines. Thompson did a great job of running the field to force the guy out when we really needed it. He's got great upfield speed.
He looked real weak playing the run with his hand down. Maybe the new coaches (Greene?) can take this lemon and make lemonade out of him.
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Of all the plays against the run last year from the RDE spot, I thought that Thompson had the play of the year. I believe that it was during his first start. The inside was clogged up and the back tried to bounce outside (it was a called A gap run). He allowed the play to stretch down the line and shuffled down the line quick enough to give the back no lane (with the LT still blocking him). Once the back tried to cut past, JT shot past the tackle and got a hand on the back a few yards into the backfield. The back did break the tackle, but in the process of doing this the LB's had plenty of time to catch up, and I think it was Barnett that made the tackle for a 2-3 yard loss. It probably would have been a real good run if he didn't stretch the backside like that.
In a year of exceptional crap play from the RDE position, that was the one really good play that sticks in my mind. Monty and Cullen don't have the feet to go toe to toe with a LT and make a play like that. Cullen has the power to drive the LT upfield to keep it inside, he does it a different way, but that was well beyond what what Monty can do.
I know it doesn't sound like much, but little things like that make the difference between a mediocre player and a good one. I think that he definitely has the highest odds right now of being the spring golden boy. Last year it was Tramon and Barbre. Two years ago it was Jolly and Bigby. I've got to think the favorites going into the spring have got to be Thompson and Finley, though Lee is a strong possibility with Harrell and Lansanah as dark horse candidates.
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