Free Agents List with Comments

[rbaloha1]

http://today.sportingnews.com/sportingnewstoday/20090212/?sub_id=xD87fQsn5lsg&folio=CGI

Which players should the Packers legitimately pursue?

[PaCkFan_n_MD]

?

[HarveyWallbangers]

If you go to page 10, you will see the list.

[Waldo]

1a) Igor Olshansky (DE)
or
1b) Chris Canty (DE)

2) Jon Stinchcomb (RT)
or
2b) Jason Brown (C/G)

3a) Gerald Sensebaugh (SS)
or
3b) Sean Smith (SS)
or
3c) Jermaine Phillips (SS)

[KYPack]

Could somebody purloin the list and post it?

I can't get to pp 1.

[HarveyWallbangers]

TE
Owen Daniels would be nice, but I believe he's only a restricted FA. Possibly take a flier on L.J. Smith.

OL
Jordan Gross is a pipedream. I think the Panthers will do everything they can to keep him.

DE
Chris Canty or Igor Olshansky would be nice.

DT
I'm not high on Tank Johnson, but there aren't many good 3-4 NTs available.

LB
Lots of good LBs available (Lewis, Scott, Suggs, Boley, Dansby, Davis)

S
Sean Jones, James Butler, James Sanders, Jermaine Phillips, Dawan Landry

[Zool]

[Waldo]

I'm not sure why they didn't list Jason Brown, G/C for the Raven on there, he's a solid young lineman that will be tough for them to keep in Baltimore given the LB situation. Same with Gerald Sensebaugh, he's probably the most athletic SS in the NFL and is young, finally cracking the starting lineup for good in '08 and playing great (70 tkl, 8 PDs, 4 ints). He runs a legit 4.45 and holds the combine record for highest vert for a DB, and is only 25 (yet a UFA).

Stinchcomb has been starting at RT 3 years for the Saints (he's 29). Last year Gross (LT) was penalized 10 times and gave up 3 sacks. Jon was penalized 3 times and gave up 1.5 sacks as a RT. Kamp's worst game last year was against him, 1 assist, no sacks. The Saints are going to have a hard time keeping him because of their $$ situation.

[rbaloha1]

1a) Igor Olshansky (DE)
or
1b) Chris Canty (DE)

2) Jon Stinchcomb (RT)
or
2b) Jason Brown (C/G)

3a) Gerald Sensebaugh (SS)
or
3b) Sean Smith (SS)
or
3c) Jermaine Phillips (SS)

Nice List. The 2 DEs are instant starters and why potentially trading Jenkins is preferable. Both des have played in the 3-4 scheme. What about Tank Johnson as nt?

Stinchcomb is also a good pickup given Tausher's status. What about Matt Birk?

Bigby and Rosuse may not fit in the system. Good fa selection of solid all around safeties.

Expect a fairly significant defensive roster turnover after free agency and draft. Bubble players are probably nervous.

[Lurker64]

Nice List. The 2 DEs are instant starters and why potentially trading Jenkins is preferable. Both des have played in the 3-4 scheme. What about Tank Johnson as nt?

Jenkins will be just fine in the 3-4, considering 3-4 DE will not differ much from his initial position of 4-3 UT, very much. I don't think anybody is suggesting we sign both Olshansky and Canty, but signing one of the two would be good because we have a need at DE. We're unlikely to be able to sign both, as we're probably not the only team looking for a 3-4 DE these days.

[Waldo]

I'm not too high on Birk since he's old and declining. He's more of a guy that you sign because of what he has done moreso than what he will do. I've tried to weed through for the value guys that are in there prime (with a few years left in their prime) or young guys on the rise that are under the radar. Vernon Carey, RT for the Dolphins (6-5, 350) is another solid young (27) RT that might hit the market that would be a good replacement/upgrade (at this point) over Tausher.

[rbaloha1]

Nice List. The 2 DEs are instant starters and why potentially trading Jenkins is preferable. Both des have played in the 3-4 scheme. What about Tank Johnson as nt?

Jenkins will be just fine in the 3-4, considering 3-4 DE will not differ much from his initial position of 4-3 UT, very much. I don't think anybody is suggesting we sign both Olshansky and Canty, but signing one of the two would be good because we have a need at DE. We're unlikely to be able to sign both, as we're probably not the only team looking for a 3-4 DE these days.

Not suggesting both be signed. Prefer a proven commodity over a player returning from injury and unproven in the 3-4.

One needs to be signed. Either a high draft pick, Jolly or Harrell should start at the other de. Again trade Jenkins.

[Lurker64]

Not suggesting both be signed. Prefer a proven commodity over a player returning from injury and unproven in the 3-4.

One needs to be signed. Either a high draft pick, Jolly or Harrell should start at the other de. Again trade Jenkins.

Okay, putting aside the fact that Jenkins is the one player on this defense who is actually perfectly suited to the new position he's going to be playing, and is a better fit for that position than anybody else is for the new defense, I'd like to point out that "trading a guy when he's coming off an injury" is the dumbest possible time to trade somebody.

I mean, all the other teams are going to know the player is coming off an injury, and they're going to have the same doubts about his recovery you do. You're advocating the equivalent of "Sell low, buy high" here.

If we end up having too many DEs through some fluke, you trade or fail to resign one of them after this season. There's no way trading Jenkins this year makes any sense at all.

[Waldo]

Jenkins>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Jolly and Harrell right now. We want to acquire better players, not get rid of our good ones and keep the mediocre ones. Jolly is the defensive lineman most likely to be traded.

[rbaloha1]

Jenkins>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Jolly and Harrell right now. We want to acquire better players, not get rid of our good ones and keep the mediocre ones. Jolly is the defensive lineman most likely to be traded.

How much trade value does Jolly have given the legal issues?