Clint Sintim

[ND72]

It wouldn't be too bad for the Packers to take Raji in the first--although he wouldn't be at the top of my choices. As for Sintim--or any 3-4 OLB, we just don't need it. We have five good players for two spots already.

SERIOUSLY, what are you talking about.

I don't post much, but tex, man, what are you smoking? We just don't need OLBs! We have no idea whether any of the players the packers have now can play in this system. Sure, we can read about Joe Schmoe's analysis stating Kampman will be awesome in the 3-4, but we won't know till that happens. I'm all for stacking this team with whatever talent they can get at any position. If this Sintim kid has played a 3-4 and is good at it...why not grab him. Best Player Available is TTs motto, reguardless of position and need.

Another person comes on here with nothing but negativity for anything the Packers already have, and a willingness to sign on to any weird idea that comes along.

I'd rather take my chances with Kampman, Hunter, Thompson, Chillar, Popinga, maybe Bishop, instead of some college kid who may or may not be any good.

Kampman I think will be fine...
Thompson? Question mark
Chillar? Worthless
Poop? More than worthless
Hunter? Yuck
Bishop I love, but he's not an OLB.

We need to draft like 3 OLB's in this draft.

[PlantPage55]

We need to draft like 3 OLB's in this draft.

I would like to see us draft 2. I can deal with Thompson as a question mark. After all, he has a ton of potential and should be given an ample opportunity.

But even more, I would LOVE a guy like Suggs to hit the market, scoop him up, and then draft a guy in the first 3 rounds.

[Waldo]

As I look around and get a picture of the #'s 3-4 teams keep, here's pretty much what I've come up with:

DE - 4
NT - 2
+1 swing tackle that can play DE and NT

OLB - 4
ILB - 4
+1 swing LB that can play both OLB and ILB

CB - 4
S - 4
+1 swing DB that can play both CB and S

With our roster we have:
DE - Jenkins, Jolly, Moore
NT - Pickett
Swing - Harrell

OLB - Kampman, Thompson, Hunter
ILB - Barnett, Hawk, Bishop, Chillar, Lansanah
Swing - Pops

CB - Harris, Williams, Blackmon, Lee, Bush
S- Collins, Bigby, Rouse, Peprah
Swing - Woodson

We're short a DE and could probably use 2 decent ones, we're short a NT, we're short an OLB but could probably use a late competition/PS guy, we're going to have to jettison an ILB, and we're going to have to jettison a CB. If we do keep an extra CB, typically the ILB's are the ones shorted (the swing guy tends to be more of an ILB), thus if we do take another CB in the draft high enough that the PS is not an option, we'll probably have to get rid of 2 ILB's.

In summary, offseason needs:
DE - 2
NT - 1
OLB - 1

[Gunakor]

Kampman I think will be fine...
Thompson? Question mark
Chillar? Worthless
Poop? More than worthless
Bishop I love, but he's not an OLB.

We need to draft like 3 OLB's in this draft.

Brandon Chillar was the most consistent of all of our LB's from last year. Including Hawk and Barnett. He's a football player, and he'll be fine.

Out of curiosity, what did you see from Chillar last season that has convinced you he's worthless?

[Waldo]

Kampman I think will be fine...
Thompson? Question mark
Chillar? Worthless
Poop? More than worthless
Bishop I love, but he's not an OLB.

We need to draft like 3 OLB's in this draft.

Brandon Chillar was the most consistent of all of our LB's from last year. Including Hawk and Barnett. He's a football player, and he'll be fine.

Out of curiosity, what did you see from Chillar last season that has convinced you he's worthless?

He's always fooled by misdirection and easily blocked. He's terrible agaisnt the run, but doesn't miss tackles and can cover, so he's good. That which they don't do (but should) is often more important than that which they do.

If covering and tackling was so important, why don't we play Woodson at LB? Chillar is incredibly unstout agaisnt the run.

[MJZiggy]

Kampman I think will be fine...
Thompson? Question mark
Chillar? Worthless
Poop? More than worthless
Bishop I love, but he's not an OLB.

We need to draft like 3 OLB's in this draft.

Brandon Chillar was the most consistent of all of our LB's from last year. Including Hawk and Barnett. He's a football player, and he'll be fine.

Out of curiosity, what did you see from Chillar last season that has convinced you he's worthless?

He's always fooled by misdirection and easily blocked. He's terrible agaisnt the run, but doesn't miss tackles and can cover, so he's good. That which they don't do (but should) is often more important than that which they do.

If covering and tackling was so important, why don't we play Woodson at LB? Chillar is incredibly unstout agaisnt the run.

Unstout? Does that make him more of a lager?

[texaspackerbacker]

Kampman I think will be fine...
Thompson? Question mark
Chillar? Worthless
Poop? More than worthless
Bishop I love, but he's not an OLB.

We need to draft like 3 OLB's in this draft.

Brandon Chillar was the most consistent of all of our LB's from last year. Including Hawk and Barnett. He's a football player, and he'll be fine.

Out of curiosity, what did you see from Chillar last season that has convinced you he's worthless?

Like I said, some people are so negative that they just can't see the value in players currently on the Packers.

Waldo, as you know, I see Chillar more as an OLB. I'm assuming by Moore, you mean Montgomery. You also left off Cole, possibly intentionally.

Getting a backup NT somewhere down in the draft to compete with Cole makes some sense. I could even see a backup DE, although, considering the prospect of Kampman still getting some snaps there, that's less of a necessity. We seem pretty full up, however, at LB.

[Lurker64]

Cole is a FA right? Are we sure that we're going to resign him?

[Waldo]

Kampman I think will be fine...
Thompson? Question mark
Chillar? Worthless
Poop? More than worthless
Bishop I love, but he's not an OLB.

We need to draft like 3 OLB's in this draft.

Brandon Chillar was the most consistent of all of our LB's from last year. Including Hawk and Barnett. He's a football player, and he'll be fine.

Out of curiosity, what did you see from Chillar last season that has convinced you he's worthless?

Like I said, some people are so negative that they just can't see the value in players currently on the Packers.

Waldo, as you know, I see Chillar more as an OLB. I'm assuming by Moore, you mean Montgomery. You also left off Cole, possibly intentionally.

Getting a backup NT somewhere down in the draft to compete with Cole makes some sense. I could even see a backup DE, although, considering the prospect of Kampman still getting some snaps there, that's less of a necessity. We seem pretty full up, however, at LB.

No, I meant Malone, my bad. I really see no place for either Cole or Montgomery in a 3-4 scheme. They are mediocre 4-3 role players that do not translate well. Monty is too small to play DE, too slow to play OLB, Cole is too weak to play NT, too slow to play DE.

I see plenty of value in our current players. We have at least 3 OLB's (Kamp, Thompson, Hunter, Pettway?) and a swing guy (Pops), but none of the rest of our LB's are really a fit at OLB. They aren't very stout, and they aren't very long. We have an excellent ILB corps however.