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    COULD OHIO STATE CORNER WIND UP IN GREEN BAY?
    Posted by Aaron Wilson on February 15, 2009, 11:17 a.m.

    With the annual NFL Scouting Combine set to launch this week in Indianapolis, the Green Bay Packers are expected to heavily scrutinize Ohio State cornerback Malcolm Jenkins.

    According to the Green Pay Press-Gazette, Jenkins is a potential candidate to become the Packers’ first-round draft pick. nJenkins has already been linked to the Packers in several mock drafts.

    NFL Network draft analyst Mike Mayock, who projects Jenkins’ best position as free safety in the NFL, cautioned against putting too much stock into 40-yard dash times. Especially when it comes to defensive backs.

    “We predicate a lot of their true football speed on what they run [in the 40],” Mayock said. “I know a lot of guys that can backpedal, turn, move much [more] naturally that way, and because they didn’t run track or whatever [it hurts them]. So, if a guy runs 4.6, and then he goes to a special place to learn how to start and explode out of the blocks and run 4.48, is he any faster a football player?

    “Probably not. That’s where the functional playing speed, versus manufactured speed, comes into play for me. I think you really have to be careful, because as an evaluator, I think there’s a trap inherent in the times.”

  • #2
    makes no sense, I don't see anyway we take this guy... Especially if he can't play corner on NFL level, we don't need a FS (we already have Collins)...

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    • #3
      Jenkins has already been linked to the Packers in several mock drafts.
      Anybody else think this quote is absolutely hilarious? It means absolutely nothing!

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      • #4
        Originally posted by packers11
        makes no sense, I don't see anyway we take this guy... Especially if he can't play corner on NFL level, we don't need a FS (we already have Collins)...
        In terms of "the first Green Bay pick of the draft", Thompson has surprised me 3/4 times. Just because it doesn't make sense to us, doesn't mean it doesn't make sense to the Brain Wizards part of the Scouting team.

        Think of it this way, in the best case scenario Jenkins has a rare blend of size, speed, and instinct. He'll play run support like a safety and cover like a CB. In a defense that prides itself on "the offense doesn't know what's coming", you could certainly use a guy like that.

        Now you almost never get the best case scenario with a guy, but he's certainly not "just a FS."
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        • #5
          Originally posted by PlantPage55
          Jenkins has already been linked to the Packers in several mock drafts.
          Anybody else think this quote is absolutely hilarious? It means absolutely nothing!
          Yeah, I actually had to read it twice. Is that their source? Wow lol

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          • #6
            Originally posted by mission
            Yeah, I actually had to read it twice. Is that their source? Wow lol
            Well, for any team that's picking in the top 10, it might make some sort of sense to write an expose about drafting any of the top 10 guys they might conceivably draft (so don't give Green Bay a QB, for example.)

            Which sounds worse "linked to Green Bay in several mock drafts" or "He's probably a top ten talent, and Green Bay picks in the top 10 and needs help on defense, so it could happen!"?
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            • #7
              Originally posted by Lurker64
              Originally posted by mission
              Yeah, I actually had to read it twice. Is that their source? Wow lol
              Well, for any team that's picking in the top 10, it might make some sort of sense to write an expose about drafting any of the top 10 guys they might conceivably draft (so don't give Green Bay a QB, for example.)

              Which sounds worse "linked to Green Bay in several mock drafts" or "He's probably a top ten talent, and Green Bay picks in the top 10 and needs help on defense, so it could happen!"?
              They say the same thing as far as I'm concerned. If you take a large sampling of mock drafts, you can get GB picking just about anyone in the top 10 outside of QB ... and then base an article around it?

              I guess, but... really...

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              • #8
                Originally posted by mission
                I guess, but... really...
                This is pft we're talking about, not only that, but it's pft during the post-superbowl pre-combine doldrums. Gotta write about something...
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                • #9
                  He's the top rated CB this year. He would've been the top CB in the draft last year if he came out.

                  Maybe he would be one hell of a free safety, but if he's also a top notch CB you sure wouldn't waste him at S.
                  #14

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                  • #10
                    Wonder if TT rates Jenkins higher than Maybin, Brown, Orakpo and other defensive players? Left Raji off the list since he is most likley taken.

                    Jenkins and Collins would make an excellent tandem.

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by rbaloha
                      Wonder if TT rates Jenkins higher than Maybin, Brown, Orakpo and other defensive players?
                      Personally, if we put Raji aside, of all the defensive players I would have to rate Jenkins higher than any of the DEs that we suspect might be able to play OLB. Simply because CBs likely to be great any time soon are hard to find outside of the first round, but there's definitely value at OLB in rounds 2 and later with guys like Sintim and English.

                      But the only real marquee position that we're lacking on the defense is at the NT spot (since most other positions are specialists, and don't usually require top 10 picks to fill), so if Raji is gone we might as well take a LT if there's one there.
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                      • #12
                        has anyone else ever heard anywhere that he would project as a safety in the pros?

                        thats the first i ever heard of it

                        the guys a damn stud at cb, why move him?

                        and i do think that jenkins would be higher up on boards then the de's that would be converted to OLB's. in fact i'd bet there's a few boards that might have him as the #1 defensive player

                        cb is one spot that really worries me. harris and c-wood are both on the wrong side of 30 where players can just drop off the face of the earth. and i am not confident with the guys behind them yet. adding a super stud cb would make our secondary look good for the future

                        of course, OT is also a position that has a very bleak looking future, but chances are we'll miss out on the top 3 tackles in the draft

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                        • #13
                          When you're right, you're right, red.

                          My original thought was to take Jenkins at #9. I then kinda drifted toward the idea of an OT, if we can get one of the top three, but I agree, most experts think they will be gone.

                          We honestly don't have great need for a front seven D player. We don't really need a Corner either, but you can never have too many of them, and if this guy is as good as advertized, we shouldn't pass him up.

                          As for Jenkins playing Free Safety, no. If some media person is actually saying that, it's still a bunch of bullshit. Like somebody said, you just don't take a stud Corner and switch him to Safety--especially when you are as solid at Safety as the Packers are.
                          What could be more GOOD and NORMAL and AMERICAN than Packer Football?

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by texaspackerbacker

                            As for Jenkins playing Free Safety, no. If some media person is actually saying that, it's still a bunch of bullshit. Like somebody said, you just don't take a stud Corner and switch him to Safety--especially when you are as solid at Safety as the Packers are.
                            A lot of people think he'll make a better safety in the NFL then CB. Also besides Collins I don'k we are too solid at safety.

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                            • #15
                              I guess because he's so good and zone and in space that people are talking about possibly safety. That reason also lends him a bit more to GB because of evolving schemes.

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