Brandon Jackson

[rbaloha1]

For me, one of the great mysteries of the 2008 season was "where are Grant's long runs?"

I don't get it. Was he injured? Was he simply lucky in 2007?

The offense was better in 07. Recall Favre could change to a running play at any time.

The '07 offense scored 16 more points (1 ppg more) and averaged 19.6 more ypg.

It wasn't that much better.

Stats aside the 07 offense functioned much better due to Hall of Fame Favre vs. Rookie Rodgers. The o-line, fullbacks and tes also were healthier in 07 vs. 08.

Nonetheless Rogers played well and expect AR to have a good career in Green Bay.

[rbaloha1]

I like Jackson and I think he was way underutilized last year. He had a much more noticeable burst than Grant did. I hope he gets at least 100 carries this coming season as I think he's a solid runner.

Jackson improved. Never goes down on initial contact. Reads blocks well. Deserves more playing time.

[sharpe1027]

I like Jackson and I think he was way underutilized last year. He had a much more noticeable burst than Grant did. I hope he gets at least 100 carries this coming season as I think he's a solid runner.

Jackson improved. Never goes down on initial contact. Reads blocks well. Deserves more playing time.

Agreed, to some extent. However, he still doesn't hit the holes between the tackles very well. Much of his yardage and his good runs were the result of bouncing the run to the outside. To be an every down player he is going to need to get more of the tough 2-4 yard runs that Grant pounds out on a regular basis.

[Patler]

The '07 offense scored 16 more points (1 ppg more) and averaged 19.6 more ypg.

It wasn't that much better.

Not entirely accurate. The team scored 16 more points in 2007 than in 2008, but in 2008 they had 9 TDs that were not scored by the offense. In 2007, I believe there were only 6 TDs that were not scored by the offense. If you account for those, the difference in offensive point production is greater than you suggest, but still not a huge difference in my opinion.

[Waldo]

Good point, I missed that, I forgot that NFL.com doesn't have any rollup offensive scoring stats.

The '08 Packers were better than the '07 Packers in th 4th qtr and in the red zone, the '07 Packers were better in the 3rd qtr and the 1st qtr, which was an Achilles heel for the '08 Packers.

[Patler]

Good point, I missed that, I forgot that NFL.com doesn't have any rollup offensive scoring stats.

The '08 Packers were better than the '07 Packers in th 4th qtr and in the red zone, the '07 Packers were better in the 3rd qtr and the 1st qtr, which was an Achilles heel for the '08 Packers.

An interesting comparison would be to look at the points/offensive possession, ignoring end of the half run-out-the-clock ones.

[Joemailman]

I like Jackson and I think he was way underutilized last year. He had a much more noticeable burst than Grant did. I hope he gets at least 100 carries this coming season as I think he's a solid runner.

Jackson improved. Never goes down on initial contact. Reads blocks well. Deserves more playing time.

Agreed, to some extent. However, he still doesn't hit the holes between the tackles very well. Much of his yardage and his good runs were the result of bouncing the run to the outside. To be an every down player he is going to need to get more of the tough 2-4 yard runs that Grant pounds out on a regular basis.

All of which is why in my opinion Jackson should be getting more carries. He provides an excellent change of pace to Grant. Grant pounding the ball inside and Jackson bouncing it outside could be an excellent combination. As stated earlier, I also think Grant would be better if he got more of a breather now and then. I know MM seems to want Grant to be a workhorse. I'm not sure that Grant has the physical ability to do that effectively.

[sharpe1027]

All of which is why in my opinion Jackson should be getting more carries. He provides an excellent change of pace to Grant. Grant pounding the ball inside and Jackson bouncing it outside could be an excellent combination. As stated earlier, I also think Grant would be better if he got more of a breather now and then. I know MM seems to want Grant to be a workhorse. I'm not sure that Grant has the physical ability to do that effectively.

Sounds like a plan! Let's get this to MM.

[Cheesehead Craig]

All of which is why in my opinion Jackson should be getting more carries. He provides an excellent change of pace to Grant. Grant pounding the ball inside and Jackson bouncing it outside could be an excellent combination. As stated earlier, I also think Grant would be better if he got more of a breather now and then. I know MM seems to want Grant to be a workhorse. I'm not sure that Grant has the physical ability to do that effectively.

Sounds like a plan! Let's get this to MM.

Jackson can run the ball inside and isn't just a speedster. He's got more explosive burst than Grant does and I'm not fully convinced Grant is a "tougher inside runner". Granted, with Grant's injury last season it sure seemed that Jackson had much more burst.

[MadtownPacker]

I like Jackson and I think he was way underutilized last year. He had a much more noticeable burst than Grant did. I hope he gets at least 100 carries this coming season as I think he's a solid runner.

Jackson improved. Never goes down on initial contact. Reads blocks well. Deserves more playing time.

Agreed, to some extent. However, he still doesn't hit the holes between the tackles very well. Much of his yardage and his good runs were the result of bouncing the run to the outside. To be an every down player he is going to need to get more of the tough 2-4 yard runs that Grant pounds out on a regular basis.

What? 2-4 yds on a regular basis?? When was that? Ryan "arm tackle me" Grant is a farce and BJax should have replace him half way thru the 08 season. I agree with Craig & Rb, Jackson needs and deserves more playing time. Might as well also draft a guy cuz Grant is not the future.

[bigcoz75]

I like Jackson and I think he was way underutilized last year. He had a much more noticeable burst than Grant did. I hope he gets at least 100 carries this coming season as I think he's a solid runner.

Jackson improved. Never goes down on initial contact. Reads blocks well. Deserves more playing time.

Agreed, to some extent. However, he still doesn't hit the holes between the tackles very well. Much of his yardage and his good runs were the result of bouncing the run to the outside. To be an every down player he is going to need to get more of the tough 2-4 yard runs that Grant pounds out on a regular basis.

What? 2-4 yds on a regular basis?? When was that? Ryan "arm tackle me" Grant is a farce and BJax should have replace him half way thru the 08 season. I agree with Craig & Rb, Jackson needs and deserves more playing time. Might as well also draft a guy cuz Grant is not the future.

I agree, maybe in 2007 Grant had some tough 2-4 yd runs in the middle, but in 2008 it appeared his better runs came off the edge. His middle runs seemed to go nowhere as he was typically brought down by the first person who touched him. I'd love to see some stats that prove otherwise.

[HarveyWallbangers]

Grant was better late than early, so I'm expecting a bounce back year in 2009. I still don't think Jackson would be a good every down RB, but he I think he's a good third down/change of pace RB. That's much better than I thought the year before. This coming from a guy who absolutely loved the Jackson pick at the time. To me, he was a disappointment. He seemed to lack instincts. In 2008, he showed me some of the reasons I liked the pick.

[sharpe1027]

I agree, maybe in 2007 Grant had some tough 2-4 yd runs in the middle, but in 2008 it appeared his better runs came off the edge. His middle runs seemed to go nowhere as he was typically brought down by the first person who touched him. I'd love to see some stats that prove otherwise.

2-4 yard runs are not going to be his better runs, so yes his better runs might have been off the edge, after having been setup with a bunch of inside runs.

Don't get me wrong, I like what Jackson brings, but the comparisons aren't really fair. They passed a lot more of the time with BJack in the game. It is one thing to run when the D is expecting pass and another when it is the third straight run on 1st and 10.

[texaspackerbacker]

There's an old saying, everybody loves the second string QB. Well, around here, it seems like everybody loves the second string RB in the same way.

I have nothing against Jackson. He played very decent at times. But no way in hell he's anywhere near as good as Grant.

[MadtownPacker]

There's an old saying, everybody loves the second string QB. Well, around here, it seems like everybody loves the second string RB in the same way.

I have nothing against Jackson. He played very decent at times. But no way in hell he's anywhere near as good as Grant.

Man, we are finally gonna get it on here on PackerRats Tex. It is like shooting it out with Billy the kid, Davey Crockett or some other old skool legend.

The 2nd string QB never gets to touch the ball unless the starter gets busted up. RBs can be rotated out with great success. In fact seems like most teams now have a main guy and another near starter type backing him up. GB does not. Why? Well it aint Jackson's fault. He is getting better and I expect to see alot more from him in 09.

Grant, if he doesnt go and fall over a table again and hurt himself, he will just continue to run down as the game goes on. He is kinda tall but no way is he built to run down defenses into the 4th quarter. He is always on the absorbing end of hits instead of dishing it out and pummeling DBs. BJax can, Grant gets knocked on his ass.

I dont think Grants bad to have on the team but his is a change of pace back at best and not the kind that will wins games and ultimately, championships. The teams is growing up now and to make the mistake of betting all your chips on Grant would be terrible. That is a mistake TT will not make. As it is Im sure he wasnt happy on what he got for his money in 08.