2009 free agent thread

[3irty1]

Springs is a top notch player but we have no need for another ancient corner.

[red]

patriots signed TE chris baker

bart scott agreed to terms with the jets

eagles have signed tackle stacy andrews

[Waldo]

They can free a lot of space (8-9M I believe) by cutting Jason Taylor. I expect that to be announced any moment.....

If he can be had for 3-4M for a year or two, he might not be a bad option to look at. He had a great deal of success (DPOY) under Capers when they were transitioning from a Bates 4-3 to a 3-4. He's probably done as a 4-3 end, but could still have a year or two left in the tank at WOLB, precisely where we have need, to bridge the gap between the young guys on the roster or draft picks who would be learning the spot. If he gets bypassed by a young guy midway through the season, so be it, but he's capable of doing an acceptable job week 1, something that our current roster or the draft won't provide.

That is a great point. This is the second time Dom Capers has transitioned a Bates 4-3 to a 3-4. Goddamn, I feel better already.

I also like the idea of signing a Jason Taylor in the 'ripple phase' of FA. There are some good deals available by getting getting guys who have been shoved off roster due to other FA signings.

Was JTaylor a hands down DE or a SOLB in Miami's 3-4?

He was a hands up elephant OLB (WOLB) that put his hand on the ground a good amount too.

Normally I don't like signing old guys in FA, but he has value (if the price is right) if we draft to address the position, since we likely will not have a good starter for the early part of the season, he'd be a good bridge.

IMO if he wants to play another year, the allure of 3-4 OLB (takes away a lot of the run responsibilities) plus his old coach in Capers makes GB a pretty good fit for him, especially since he's light years better at rushing than Pops.

He's too old though to be effective at the POA as a 4-3 DE, which was shown repeatedly last year in Was.

[PaCkFan_n_MD]

alright

haynesworth is a redskin 7 years 100 million

fred taylor is a patroit

the Sage Rosenfels trade went through for the queens

and the bears signed tackle Frank Omiyale for 4 years 14 million

bart scott is in new york and is expected to sign with the jets

canty has visits lined up with the skins, then the titans, then seattle, then san fran

Don't forget the Skins signed Hall for 55 mill..

Crazy thing is they are shopping Springs because of it. he was statistically the 9th best CB in the NFL last year (success rate). I'd pull the trigger for a 3rd, but I bet they can get a 2nd for him (I doubt we'd go that high).

http://www.rotoworld.com/content/Headlines.aspx?sport=NFL&hl=140231

Redskins informed CB Shawn Springs of his release.

The Skins unsurprisingly found no takers in a trade for the 34-year-old. Springs can still play, but GM Vinny Cerrato tipped his hand by immediately putting him on the block after re-signing DeAngelo Hall. At that point Springs' release had become inevitable and nobody would have given up a pick for him. Hall and Carlos Rogers will be Washington's starting corners in 2009. The Saints and old DC Gregg Williams figure to show interest in Springs. Feb. 27 - 10:49 am et
Source: Washington Post

[HarveyWallbangers]

Besides the inevitability of his release, Springs is 34-years-old, has been injury prone, and his play has been up and down throughout his career. It's not surprising somebody didn't give up much for him.

[Gunakor]

mark me down as someone that hopes to god someone is dumb enough to give us a second round pick for bigby

The second would be nice, but who would you start at SS this year? Remember, the SS is not going to be in coverage most of the time, he's going to be up in the box giving run support. So we need a hitter at SS, not a cover guy. Rouse is not a mauler like Bigby is, nor is Woodson or Peprah. We don't have a better SS on the roster. So while I'm not altogether opposed to a trade like this, I'd like to know what the plan would be if Bigby were traded away.

[Gunakor]

Day 1 of Free Agency for the Packer fan Boring!

Did you expect anything different? You'll be saying the same thing exactly a week from now too..

Yup...and probably a month from now too. At least we have the #9 pick in the draft...hopefully TT strikes gold this year.

He'll trade down..Sorry to sound like a pessimist, but i've seen this show before..

Really? I haven't. When have you seen TT trade down out of the top 10 before?

And as far as FA goes, I'd like to know who is on the market right now that is SOOOO important to sign that we need to nab him on the first day by paying him WAAAAY more than he's worth. Any names?

[Spaulding]

The Winslow Experience in Cleveland is over as he was traded to the Bucs for an undisclosed draft choice.

Assuming it was for a 2nd or 3rd.

[Partial]

The Winslow Experience in Cleveland is over as he was traded to the Bucs for an undisclosed draft choice.

Assuming it was for a 2nd or 3rd.

Wow, that surprises me. Love Kellen Winslow's talent, hate his attitude.

[sharpe1027]

The second would be nice, but who would you start at SS this year? Remember, the SS is not going to be in coverage most of the time, he's going to be up in the box giving run support. So we need a hitter at SS, not a cover guy. Rouse is not a mauler like Bigby is, nor is Woodson or Peprah. We don't have a better SS on the roster. So while I'm not altogether opposed to a trade like this, I'd like to know what the plan would be if Bigby were traded away.

Rouse has LB size and has had his fair share of big hits in limited playing time. I like him near the line of scrimmage, although he could improve his angles and general sureness in tackling. IMO, his biggest question mark is his range in coverage.

[Spaulding]

mark me down as someone that hopes to god someone is dumb enough to give us a second round pick for bigby

The second would be nice, but who would you start at SS this year? Remember, the SS is not going to be in coverage most of the time, he's going to be up in the box giving run support. So we need a hitter at SS, not a cover guy. Rouse is not a mauler like Bigby is, nor is Woodson or Peprah. We don't have a better SS on the roster. So while I'm not altogether opposed to a trade like this, I'd like to know what the plan would be if Bigby were traded away.

Mark me down as an Atari 2600 fan but if they did let him go for a 2nd, I wouldn't mind seeing Jim Leonhard signed to replace him. Then again given the unknown return of Bigby to form, wouldn't mind seeing Leonard signed regardless as he seems to be virtually an Aaron Kampman but in a safety body in that he's smart, a leader, is a team player, and achieves more than anybody expects.

[Fritz]

They can free a lot of space (8-9M I believe) by cutting Jason Taylor. I expect that to be announced any moment.....

If he can be had for 3-4M for a year or two, he might not be a bad option to look at. He had a great deal of success (DPOY) under Capers when they were transitioning from a Bates 4-3 to a 3-4. He's probably done as a 4-3 end, but could still have a year or two left in the tank at WOLB, precisely where we have need, to bridge the gap between the young guys on the roster or draft picks who would be learning the spot. If he gets bypassed by a young guy midway through the season, so be it, but he's capable of doing an acceptable job week 1, something that our current roster or the draft won't provide.

That is a great point. This is the second time Dom Capers has transitioned a Bates 4-3 to a 3-4. Goddamn, I feel better already.

I also like the idea of signing a Jason Taylor in the 'ripple phase' of FA. There are some good deals available by getting getting guys who have been shoved off roster due to other FA signings.

Was JTaylor a hands down DE or a SOLB in Miami's 3-4?

When I saw that, KY, I thought you'd written "nipple phase." That'd be the first three days of free agency, when fans' nipples get hard after their team signs a big-name free agent who's sure to be the key to getting to the Super Bowl...

As opposed to Green Bay, where the only reasons for perky nipples are the cold weather or the hot pictures posted in certain threads.

[Guiness]

The Winslow Experience in Cleveland is over as he was traded to the Bucs for an undisclosed draft choice.

Assuming it was for a 2nd or 3rd.

That team sure went through a lot because of him, I guess holding on hoping that it would all get better. I'm torn between feeling bad for them because of the way it fell out, or to think they're idiots for taking his abuse as long as they did.

Well, there goes part of TB's cap room. Only $50million more to spend.

[Gunakor]

mark me down as someone that hopes to god someone is dumb enough to give us a second round pick for bigby

The second would be nice, but who would you start at SS this year? Remember, the SS is not going to be in coverage most of the time, he's going to be up in the box giving run support. So we need a hitter at SS, not a cover guy. Rouse is not a mauler like Bigby is, nor is Woodson or Peprah. We don't have a better SS on the roster. So while I'm not altogether opposed to a trade like this, I'd like to know what the plan would be if Bigby were traded away.

Mark me down as an Atari 2600 fan but if they did let him go for a 2nd, I wouldn't mind seeing Jim Leonhard signed to replace him. Then again given the unknown return of Bigby to form, wouldn't mind seeing Leonard signed regardless as he seems to be virtually an Aaron Kampman but in a safety body in that he's smart, a leader, is a team player, and achieves more than anybody expects.

Absolutely agreed on Jim Leonhard. I'd absolutely love to see him in G&G, and he's one of the few players (that could be obtained for a reasonable price) that I'd rather see at SS than Bigby. Still, I'd like to have a reasonable assurance that I could get Leonhard before I trade Bigby away.

[Gunakor]

The second would be nice, but who would you start at SS this year? Remember, the SS is not going to be in coverage most of the time, he's going to be up in the box giving run support. So we need a hitter at SS, not a cover guy. Rouse is not a mauler like Bigby is, nor is Woodson or Peprah. We don't have a better SS on the roster. So while I'm not altogether opposed to a trade like this, I'd like to know what the plan would be if Bigby were traded away.

Rouse has LB size and has had his fair share of big hits in limited playing time. I like him near the line of scrimmage, although he could improve his angles and general sureness in tackling. IMO, his biggest question mark is his range in coverage.

Rouse's biggest successes in the NFL have come when in coverage - 2 INT's in spot duty a couple seasons ago, the coast to coast INT return for TD last season. His range is an issue, I agree, so I wouldn't want to leave him as a single high safety either. Honestly, I don't know if he's a great fit in this defense anywhere. He seems like a cover 2 safety to me. But I do know for sure that he's not as great a tackler as Bigby is, so I'd be hesitant to trade Bigby away if Rouse is the full time replacement.