"COLE/CANTY MAY END UP ELSEWHERE

[Bretsky]

http://www.jsonline.com/sports/packers/40487592.html

[digitaldean]

I'd say Cole is gone. Between TB and Seattle, he's gone.

Canty is a possibility, but not likely. I am leaning towards Olshansky being available.

[Bretsky]

I've never valued Cole that much; he's a guy

Getting either player you mentioned would serve us better

[Lurker64]

Cole basically defines "Average, but big and strong". He's very unlikely to be worth what he's going to be paid, but god bless him anyway. If he can get paid millions of dollars for being fat, more power to him.

[SnakeLH2006]

No Cole is leaving!!! FUCK U TT!! NOOOOOO!!!!!!!!

[LL2]

It sure would be nice to keep Cole, but I wouldn't over pay for the guy either. I would love to have Canty. I think he's an upgrade for the front three. TT has to be careful not too be too thin on the front three next year or it could make him look stupid.

[Joemailman]

Canty reportedly left New York without an agreement. If he is legitimately interested in Green Bay, as opposed to using Green Bay to drive up the offers from other teams, then I think the Packers have a real chance to get him.

I agree Cole is just a guy. You can find guys with Cole-like ability late in the draft if not on the waiver wire.

I do worry a little about some free agents from warmer climates traveling to Wisconsin at the beginning of March and seeing there is still a foot of snow on the ground.

[Fritz]

Canty's agent is doing his best to drive up the price - which of course is his job. After some early reports that Canty wanted to play end in the 4-3 so he could play three downs by moving inside on third, the emphasis has been moved (by whom? Writers? Agent?) to the idea that hey, Canty's a 3-4 guy.

Interesting. On top of that, supposedly Blank, the agent, offered to have Canty stop in GB on the way to Seattle, but Ted didn't bite. Naturally, the people posting onto JSO are screaming, but it's obvious the agent wants someone to swoop in with a Redskins-like offer so other teams will panic and thus begin a bidding war. So I say kudos to TT for letting Canty fly coast to coast today. Let Seattle set the market.

One important piece of information that seems to get stuck near the end of most GBPG and JSO articles is the fact that if GB signs Canty for the Redskins-level contract he's looking for (that 20 mill thing), GB will lose out on some of its own free agents in a year or two.

So you could be talking about losing guys like Collins or Colledge or others - the list is long.

Let Canty fly west. If Seattle wants to break the bank, let them. If Seattle decides to proceed more slowly, then fine. Then Thompson can arrange a visit, and talk something slightly more reasonable.

But to overspend just to get a "name" guy....that's what Jerry Jones and Dan Snyder do. And how's that working out in Dallas and Washington?

[Packnut]

Canty's agent is doing his best to drive up the price - which of course is his job. After some early reports that Canty wanted to play end in the 4-3 so he could play three downs by moving inside on third, the emphasis has been moved (by whom? Writers? Agent?) to the idea that hey, Canty's a 3-4 guy.

Interesting. On top of that, supposedly Blank, the agent, offered to have Canty stop in GB on the way to Seattle, but Ted didn't bite. Naturally, the people posting onto JSO are screaming, but it's obvious the agent wants someone to swoop in with a Redskins-like offer so other teams will panic and thus begin a bidding war. So I say kudos to TT for letting Canty fly coast to coast today. Let Seattle set the market.

One important piece of information that seems to get stuck near the end of most GBPG and JSO articles is the fact that if GB signs Canty for the Redskins-level contract he's looking for (that 20 mill thing), GB will lose out on some of its own free agents in a year or two.

So you could be talking about losing guys like Collins or Colledge or others - the list is long.

Let Canty fly west. If Seattle wants to break the bank, let them. If Seattle decides to proceed more slowly, then fine. Then Thompson can arrange a visit, and talk something slightly more reasonable.

But to overspend just to get a "name" guy....that's what Jerry Jones and Dan Snyder do. And how's that working out in Dallas and Washington?

With the current CBA in doubt, all bets are off in regards to "future" free agents. What happens if we save money now, and then we have an un-capped year in 2010 and beyond? Also, if there is an agreement, the cap ALWAYS goes up so to say we would'nt be able to afford our guys later is not really true.

I'm not stupid enough to count on Jenkins and Harrell because the FACTS say neither can stay healthy. So who does that leave us with? You think last season was bad from a defensive stand-point?

Another fact here that the kool-aid guys leave out is the amount of picks we got. Take them away and we get blown out in some of those games. This D as it stands is just about the weakest front 7 in football. No pass rush + no run stoppage is a recipe for DISASTER.

But, this is what happens when you have 4 years of poor draft choices. You end up with several holes to fill. You would think after 4 drafts that we might have found just ONE impact LB or ONE impact d-lineman. It must be possible since OTHER teams do it..............

[Fritz]

Canty's agent is doing his best to drive up the price - which of course is his job. After some early reports that Canty wanted to play end in the 4-3 so he could play three downs by moving inside on third, the emphasis has been moved (by whom? Writers? Agent?) to the idea that hey, Canty's a 3-4 guy.

Interesting. On top of that, supposedly Blank, the agent, offered to have Canty stop in GB on the way to Seattle, but Ted didn't bite. Naturally, the people posting onto JSO are screaming, but it's obvious the agent wants someone to swoop in with a Redskins-like offer so other teams will panic and thus begin a bidding war. So I say kudos to TT for letting Canty fly coast to coast today. Let Seattle set the market.

One important piece of information that seems to get stuck near the end of most GBPG and JSO articles is the fact that if GB signs Canty for the Redskins-level contract he's looking for (that 20 mill thing), GB will lose out on some of its own free agents in a year or two.

So you could be talking about losing guys like Collins or Colledge or others - the list is long.

Let Canty fly west. If Seattle wants to break the bank, let them. If Seattle decides to proceed more slowly, then fine. Then Thompson can arrange a visit, and talk something slightly more reasonable.

But to overspend just to get a "name" guy....that's what Jerry Jones and Dan Snyder do. And how's that working out in Dallas and Washington?

With the current CBA in doubt, all bets are off in regards to "future" free agents. What happens if we save money now, and then we have an un-capped year in 2010 and beyond? Also, if there is an agreement, the cap ALWAYS goes up so to say we would'nt be able to afford our guys later is not really true.

I'm not stupid enough to count on Jenkins and Harrell because the FACTS say neither can stay healthy. So who does that leave us with? You think last season was bad from a defensive stand-point?

Another fact here that the kool-aid guys leave out is the amount of picks we got. Take them away and we get blown out in some of those games. This D as it stands is just about the weakest front 7 in football. No pass rush + no run stoppage is a recipe for DISASTER.

But, this is what happens when you have 4 years of poor draft choices. You end up with several holes to fill. You would think after 4 drafts that we might have found just ONE impact LB or ONE impact d-lineman. It must be possible since OTHER teams do it..............

I could hardly disagree more. First, take away any aspect of any team's game and the results are different...take away all those Brett Favre touchdown passes and the Packers wouldn't have won a Super Bowl!

As for the four years of four draft choices:

Rodgers, Collins, Hawk, Colledge, Jennings, Spitz, Jolly, Blackmon, Jackson, Jones, Bishop, Crosby, Rouse, Nelson, Brohm, Flynn, Finley, Sitton.

I would agree TT has skimped on the defensive side of the ball, particularly on the line, and it has perhaps cost the Pack. But how many teams have ready-made replacements for starting corners? I say that in 2010, if need be, Williams and Lee will be ready to go and be good.

I think TT's draft classes have been, overall, quite good. I think that's what he's best at.

Again, Packnut, I'll ask you: your preferred method - sign FA's, screw the contract size, we need help now! - how has that worked out in Dallas and Washington?

[KYPack]

No Cole is leaving!!! FUCK U TT!! NOOOOOO!!!!!!!!

Easy Snake.

You are gonna lose "Cole type guys"

He's a role player. We can get just as good off the streets. Cole was a mediocre 4-3 DT. Who knows if he can even play 3-4 DE?

There's a lot of tough things to get done to re-tool the D. Losing Cole isn't one of 'em. It's a no-brainer.

[Fritz]

I think - I think - that Snake was kinda joking around. My sense is that he doesn't see Cole's loss as a huge problem.

[KYPack]

I think - I think - that Snake was kinda joking around. My sense is that he doesn't see Cole's loss as a huge problem.

OK Fritz.

Mebbe my glasses were fogged.

[Fritz]

Here's the current question about Ted signing free agents:

Can he or Canty?

[Pugger]

Here's the current question about Ted signing free agents:

Can he or Canty?