Giants Sign Canty

[retailguy]

his agent said he had been trying to get in touch with TT, but TT wouldn't talk to him

But Canty did not want to leave New York, nor the East Coast, and Sunday afternoon he took the Giants offer.

Just in case you didn't read it the first time.

Ballhawk, yeah, it's pretty clear they were using (or trying) to use GB to boost the offer. But that isn't what it's about for me.

I'm a little bothered that he "didn't want to really come to GB". Didn't use to be that way, and that's concerning to me.

Ted's "mode of operation" is clear to more than just the folks in this forum. Makes the "possibility" of landing a free agent more difficult (and expensive) than it already is.

People always laud Ted with high praises for Charles Woodson, but from what I recall, Charles didn't have a bunch of options. The market was cooling, and the "best" other offer he had was playing Safety in Tampa...

When there's nothing else on the table, folks visit Green Bay. Until then, well not so much... That makes me kind of sad.

[Fred's Slacks]

That sucks. But Canty wanted to play in NY and made no attempt to even set up a visit to GB. What were the Packers going to do, sign him to a 45 million dollar contract without talking to him in person or giving him a physical? Come on guys! Canty grew up in NY, he wanted to play there. Let's move on.

But TT does need to shore up the D-Line. Draft A DT in the 1st or 2nd and sign Igor. End of story.

his agent said he had been trying to get in touch with TT, but TT wouldn't talk to him

Why does he have to contact TT? Obviously someone representing the Packers was in contact with him. They knew we wanted him in for a visit. They were just trying to leverage a better offer from the Giants. They had no intention of signing with us, I feel pretty confident about that now.

[gbpackfan]

his agent said he had been trying to get in touch with TT, but TT wouldn't talk to him

But Canty did not want to leave New York, nor the East Coast, and Sunday afternoon he took the Giants offer.

Just in case you didn't read it the first time.

and you had proof?

TT wouldn't even fucking talk to the agent on the phone, why would they come here?

Red,

Why would TT negotiate New York's contract for them? It was obvious to everyone, except you, that Canty wanted to play for NY and his agent was using the Packers to get a better deal. Period. Why wouldn't Canty schedule a visit? Why wouldn't he take a physical. Come on man, you know better!

However, I am not a TT apologist. The man has proven to be nothing but a lame duck in free agency. How long can he live off his Charles Woodson signing?

The D needs help and he, so far, has failed to secure an impact player. And if history tells us anything, he won't.

[retailguy]

well if we don't get igor then we almost have to reach a little and draft tyson jackson, because we have no one to start at the other DE spot, and not much out there other then olshansky that can start at de in a 3-4

What about Justin harrell?




Red, put the gun down. It'll be ok. :P

[Chevelle2]

The problem, according to a person close to the situation, is that the feeling may not be mutual. “[Co-director of football operations] Reggie McKenzie spent all day trying to set up a visit, but [agent] Brad Blank refused to commit,” said the source. “That tells me that the Packers are not at the top of Canty’s wish list. I think he wants to play for the Giants and I’d be surprised if he’s still on the market 48 hours from now.”

[Partial]

If Cole got 4 mil a year, I'd say Canty deserves 6.5. All things considered, they got him at a cheaper price than I would have thought. I expected 8.5 a year.

[PaCkFan_n_MD]

If Cole got 4 mil a year, I'd say Canty deserves 6.5. All things considered, they got him at a cheaper price than I would have thought. I expected 8.5 a year.

If we wanted him we probably needed to offer 8.5 million to bring him here.

[pittstang5]

TT makes the decision and if he really wanted Canty, he'd been balls out to get this guy...but he wasn't, so what does that tell you......he wasn't going to get into a bidding war to get him.

[Partial]

If Cole got 4 mil a year, I'd say Canty deserves 6.5. All things considered, they got him at a cheaper price than I would have thought. I expected 8.5 a year.

If we wanted him we probably needed to offer 8.5 million to bring him here.

And thats way too much. I might have done 7. Time to pony up and try to get Olshansky for 5.5

[hoosier]

his agent said he had been trying to get in touch with TT, but TT wouldn't talk to him

But Canty did not want to leave New York, nor the East Coast, and Sunday afternoon he took the Giants offer.

Just in case you didn't read it the first time.

and you had proof?

TT wouldn't even fucking talk to the agent on the phone, why would they come here?

And what proof do you have that TT "wouldn't even talk to his agent on the phone"? Because Bedard reports that Canty's agent said so? You're going to look silly if you start basing your impressions of the Packers management purely on what agents say in the heat of the moment--as if the agent's job was to report the truth and not start bidding wars between teams for his client.

It looks to me like Canty didn't have much interest in leaving NYC. Maybe it's because they knew TT wasn't going to beat the Giants offer. Or mabye because he has no interest in playing in Green Bay and was just trying to use TT to up the Giants offer. We'll never know. But I can't say I blame TT for not jumping at the chance to offer more than the Giants for a decent but not great DE, and sight unseen no less. If the Capers defense is going to be successful it won't be because it has high paid superstars at DE. Solid DL play is important, but Canty isn't the only one around who can offer that. Signing him for a reasonable price would have been nice, but it wasn't in the cards. BFD.

[PaCkFan_n_MD]

What sucks is the best team the NFC keeps getting better. Their D-line is loaded in a big way. I expect them to have one of the best defenses in the league next year.

[red]

Why does he have to contact TT? Obviously someone representing the Packers was in contact with him. They knew we wanted him in for a visit. They were just trying to leverage a better offer from the Giants. They had no intention of signing with us, I feel pretty confident about that now.

because thats TT's fucking job thats why

to me thats looks like a huge lack of respect when the main person in charge can't pick up the phone for a few minutes and instead gets a second tier guy to try and do it all

way to woo the player

[Partial]

Dude, stop overreacting. IMO the difference between him and Igor isn't nearly as big as the money would suggest. Canty is going to get more because his market is bigger with his versatility to play inside and his height, but I don't think he's that much better of a player than Olshansky.

I told you guys, I had a dream where we locked up Olshansky last night. It's going to happen.

[mission]

Why does he have to contact TT? Obviously someone representing the Packers was in contact with him. They knew we wanted him in for a visit. They were just trying to leverage a better offer from the Giants. They had no intention of signing with us, I feel pretty confident about that now.

because thats TT's fucking job thats why

to me thats looks like a huge lack of respect when the main person in charge can't pick up the phone for a few minutes and instead gets a second tier guy to try and do it all

way to woo the player

When I did sales, my boss always wanted me to call his clients to make him seem more important. It always put them back a bit and I always felt like it fucked things up...

[red]

Dude, stop overreacting. IMO the difference between him and Igor isn't nearly as big as the money would suggest. Canty is going to get more because his market is bigger with his versatility to play inside and his height, but I don't think he's that much better of a player than Olshansky.

I told you guys, I had a dream where we locked up Olshansky last night. It's going to happen.

well we damn well better get him in to town ASAP

if we don't get him, then we have major issues going into this season IMO