Giants Sign Canty

[Waldo]

You can't really blame a GM for not landing a guy who just doesn't want to play here, and if the guy is already getting overpaid most likely, it's generally not a good idea to up the ante enough to convince him he does. You don't really want guys who don't want to be there in your locker room in the first place.

Olshansky is only a tiny bit below Canty for the 3-4. If Canty is a 90/100 for a 3-4 DE, Olshansky is an 88 or an 89. The difference, of course, is that Olshansky will likely be a lot cheaper since Olshansky is more or less useless in the 4-3.

I don't get why we were even in the Canty hunt. Igor is much more GB style, both in $$ and personality.

[Waldo]

I know Scott that that was said in fun. It's all cool, but honest to gosh I hope, hope, hope that the Packers go like 11-5 or something and win a playoff game. If they do, I'm going to spend my nights pulling up all these hating-on-TT threads and shove them down people's flippin' throats.

Of course, if they such this year, and next, and TT gets canned, someone will be doing that to me, too....

Yeah I said that all in fun. I've been a TT supporter the last couple years and tried to tell people to let the man work, but I do get frustrated when you know there are guys out there that can strengthen an area of great need and TT sits back like he expects these guys to beg him for a contract. Canty probably didn't want to come hear true, but for TT to not be available when his agent calls is puzzling to say the least. Clearly if we tank again next year Thompson is going to be on the hot seat. I'm sure he knows that and do whatever he can to field a competitive team.

I would not be surprised if there is a FA in town right now that nobody knows about, that flew up from Ft. Myers and/or Scottsdale.

[texaspackerbacker]

I wasn't enthusiastic for Canty unless he came cheap--which obviously was never gonna happen. I'm also not enthusiastic for Olshansky. I don't see him as a significant upgrade from what we have, and even though cheaper than Canty, he'll be a lot more expensive than Jolly or Harrell, and a lot lower quality than a healthy Jenkins. I also have some hope that Malone may amount to something.

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I know Scott that that was said in fun. It's all cool, but honest to gosh I hope, hope, hope that the Packers go like 11-5 or something and win a playoff game. If they do, I'm going to spend my nights pulling up all these hating-on-TT threads and shove them down people's flippin' throats.

Of course, if they such this year, and next, and TT gets canned, someone will be doing that to me, too....

Yeah I said that all in fun. I've been a TT supporter the last couple years and tried to tell people to let the man work, but I do get frustrated when you know there are guys out there that can strengthen an area of great need and TT sits back like he expects these guys to beg him for a contract. Canty probably didn't want to come hear true, but for TT to not be available when his agent calls is puzzling to say the least. Clearly if we tank again next year Thompson is going to be on the hot seat. I'm sure he knows that and do whatever he can to field a competitive team.

I would not be surprised if there is a FA in town right now that nobody knows about, that flew up from Ft. Myers and/or Scottsdale.

the bad thing is olshansky lives in san diego, i looked it up, not scottsdale

and he's the guy that we need to have in right now, above anybody else i'd say

[Waldo]

I know Scott that that was said in fun. It's all cool, but honest to gosh I hope, hope, hope that the Packers go like 11-5 or something and win a playoff game. If they do, I'm going to spend my nights pulling up all these hating-on-TT threads and shove them down people's flippin' throats.

Of course, if they such this year, and next, and TT gets canned, someone will be doing that to me, too....

Yeah I said that all in fun. I've been a TT supporter the last couple years and tried to tell people to let the man work, but I do get frustrated when you know there are guys out there that can strengthen an area of great need and TT sits back like he expects these guys to beg him for a contract. Canty probably didn't want to come hear true, but for TT to not be available when his agent calls is puzzling to say the least. Clearly if we tank again next year Thompson is going to be on the hot seat. I'm sure he knows that and do whatever he can to field a competitive team.

I would not be surprised if there is a FA in town right now that nobody knows about, that flew up from Ft. Myers and/or Scottsdale.

the bad thing is olshansky lives in san diego, i looked it up, not scottsdale

and he's the guy that we need to have in right now, above anybody else i'd say

Jovan Haye is from south Florida. He wouldn't be a half bad pickup.

I'd say there's about a half dozen guys out there that are an upgrade to Jolly. Igor is just one of them.

[Fritz]

Let me just say that Waldo has been on the Irogr train for a while now. If Olshansky signs with the Pack, all hail Waldo.

Jovan Heye - that would be a typical TT pickup. Kind of like Chillar. Nobody gets excited when it happens, but the guy turns out pretty well. I like Chillar, myself.

Free agents are a big risk. In some respects, the big name/big contract guys are bigger risks than rookies. You sign a big name to a big contract, he doesn't produce, you're out a lot of money. Joe Johnson, anyone? Let's just see how Haynesworth does in D.C. this year.

You sign mid-level or lower level guys, the risk is reduced. Sure, I would've liked Canty. But the guy apparently didn't really want to be here. My take is that the agent used GB (after Seattle fell off the radar) to push up the price so Canty could get the highest payday he could to play in the place he seems to have wanted to play in all along.

[3irty1]

I would not be surprised if there is a FA in town right now that nobody knows about, that flew up from Ft. Myers and/or Scottsdale.

I think Mike Brown is from Scottsdale.

[MJZiggy]

None of them might have been visiting Ft. Meyers or Scottsdale? Do either of them have a decent golf course? Really, gents, it could be anyone. We won't know until the inevitable incorrect leak, followed later by the real answer.

[packerbacker1234]

Now what?

We are THIN.

Never fear: TT drafted a golden boy. In Just Harrell we must trust. You got what you really wanted TT.

[imscott72]

I don't understand the love affair with Olshansky either. Why is he so special? The Chargers did nothing to attempt to re-sign him. He's played all 16 games the last couple years, but next to nothing for sacks. We can't do better than this?

[Lurker64]

I don't understand the love affair with Olshansky either. Why is he so special? The Chargers did nothing to attempt to re-sign him. He's played all 16 games the last couple years, but next to nothing for sacks. We can't do better than this?

The Chargers skimp on DEs the same way that Thompson skimps on Gs, they just don't spend big money on them. Plus, as a 3-4 DE his responsibility is not sacks. The OLBs get sacks, the DEs stop the run and generally complicate blocking schemes. I mean, the guy everybody is upset we lost out on, Chris Canty, has 10 sacks over his four year career (having played in 64 games, that averages .15 sacks per game versus .133 for Olshansky, and you wouldn't have to give Olshansky 17.25 million guaranteed). You don't sign 3-4 DEs to get sacks, that's not their job.

As a 3-4 DE, Olshansky is just as good as Canty. The difference is that Canty has value to a 4-3 team while Olshansky does not.

[Bretsky]

from what i've read it sounded like TT didn't try and do shit

which is BS, because it sure sounds like the packers wanted him, and the price wasn't bad.

thats a shame, we better get igor. and TT better get on the phone with igor, not TT's minions. thats TT's job

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[Bretsky]

Well we need to get that fool on the phone then... I'm pretty disappointed needless to say.

don't hold your breath

just when you start to think that maybe TT is ok, he shows why he isn't

the stuff i read this morning made my opinion of him come crashing back to earth.

canty's agent said he was trying to get a hold of TT this moring and couldn'd. and he also said that he hadn't talked to ted at all about canty. he must have been talking to someone else in the organization because someone was very interested in the guy and was trying to get him, but it wasn't tt

TT is like the little shy scarred boy in high school that is too scared to ask the hot girl out that likes him

he's hiding in his shell

TTT; still in his shell

I'm sure this will get spun that he wanted to play in NY

Bottom line is we didn't get it done again

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they've already started that spin

bout freaking time you showed up b

[Bretsky]

Hopefully Partial's dream is right ... I mean, that sounds like a good basis for *something*

Mission!

What happened?

You were watching Canty. I went out to walk the dogs. When I got back from the woods, I heard he got by ya somehow.

Canty was one I wanted. We need some help to flesh out that front 7 and we will need at least one vet FA to do it.

The Giants sign two DL's. That Reese is a pretty sharp GM.

Is Igor our guy or what?

I got dogged on a bit in here when asked which GM's I'd take over TTT and Reese was one of them. That defense will be downright terrifying next year